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Tri-Planar Vll "SE Upgrade"
Contemplating sending my Tri-Planar Vll back to Tri Mai for his "SE Upgrade". Essentially, same carbon fiber wand and internal silver wire and leads used in his 12" U12 arm. Anybody done the dirty deed? If so, better, worse or pretty much the same.
I've only seen one post on the subject and that person seemed more than happy.
Thanks to anyone who responds with personal experience. No conjecture please.
I've only seen one post on the subject and that person seemed more than happy.
Thanks to anyone who responds with personal experience. No conjecture please.
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nandric This is called ''testimonium paupertatis'' in old good latin. You don't even own the Triplanar but you pretend to know better than those who know what they are talking about. I assume that this is the influence of the Mexican. In empirical science no proof would be even considered without provision of repertory and controlable experiments. So I am still waiting for someone who checked my statement not by speculation but by testing his Triplanar with tracking ability test. What is curious isthe fact that I need to wait so long. Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. I have extensive experience with the Triplanar arm. That I don't happen to personally own one now is irrelevant. I am not sure what you mean about "influence of the Mexican." Nationality has nothing to do with this. It sounds like you suffer prejudice. Nandric, you're the one with the problem pickup arm. What's curious is that you prefer to complain about it, rather than to return it to the dealer or manufacturer for evaluation. Apparently, your preference is to suffer noisily. So I guess you're a very happy guy. |
Nandric I have no fear of trying a test record but honestly if I have a tonearm that tracks every record I own without issue with the exception of records I know to be imperfect so why would I need to resort to a test? This seems to be just another whacky thread which has driven me away from Audiogon forums. Signing off. |
Elinor, By each cart manufacturer provide specifications among which recommended VTF and tracking ability expressed in microns. Say my Benz LP S claims 80 microns by 2g. My Ortofon Windfeld even 100 microns with 2,6g. On the other side my Ikeda 9 c does not claim anything but can't track more than 50 microns. As I wrote in my previous post 50 microns is sufficient for ''normal records''. But there are records which are more demanding like those Tchaikovski's cannon shots. Raul use this record to judge carts. The most cart/tonearms combos will skip the third shot. The same will happen with cart/tonearm combos by 60 microns if the combo is not able to track more than 50 microns. I see that nobody care to test his own combos but trust their hearing or intuition. Well I check all my (new) carts with my test records first. That is before listening to them. I was not able to confirm Windfeld but well LPS . To be more specific I never got 100 microns ''pure'' nor 90 microns but well 80 microns with 2 g by LPS. I do those tests with my FR-64 because this arm has removable headshell such that changing carts is much more easy then by Triplanar and other tonearms with fast headshells. So I was very much surprised when my Triplanar ''refused'' to track 60 microns and skipped the groove. This btw does no imply that the arm is defective because there are many low complience carts wich can't track more than 50 microns. But if whatever cart can track, say 70 microns , with my FR-64 but the same cart is not able to track 70 microns on my Triplanar I was curious to know why. That is why I posted my specific question. To my surprise nobody try the same experiment but invented all kinds of answers which are irrelevant for my question. |
@nandric, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. ’Nobody’ is incorrectly used in your posts so far. ’Some people’ might be a lot more accurate as I suspect that not everyone who has a Triplanar has seen this thread!! I don’t have any of the LPs to which you refer (having heard the 1812 far too many times I hope to never hear it again in my lifetime; I count myself amongst the privileged fortunate who have not heard the 1812 for over 2 decades and I’m going for a third). But I do have an LP mastering lathe and so far no matter the test tones we’ve cut the Triplanar has played them all without complaint and for that matter, every LP I’ve had except for one: That LP has a lot of bass on it and is a recent pop recording. Now I’m used to playing pop recordings with quite a lot of bass, so I was upset that this particular LP was having troubles (although the usual signs of mistracking were not showing up). So I took it to the studio and studied the grooves under the microscope. Its quite obvious that the LP was overcut. That can cause distortion so I have discounted this particular title as not being a contender. The way you’re making it sound is that there are possibly two titles in the world that the Triplanar won’t play. I have only about 8000 titles in my library so its highly likely that I won’t run into these titles (and if one of those involves the 1812 then we’re down to one) given how much music there is. These LPs don’t seem to be in the US for starters- so I would not jump to the conclusions as you appear to be doing! Do you know of a source for this test LP? I’d be happy to give it a shot as long its not cannon shots :) ! |
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