Townshend Maximum Super Tweeters Ribbons, Amazing Results Definite Keepers


hi
i am using various cd players as i am upgrading but i have kept the lector cdp707 in now fora week or so, a dealer friend brought round a pair of Max Super Tweeters, he connected them up in less than 2 mins using the supplied cables, he set the level at 3 from a choice of 1-6, we sat down and i played one of my all time favorites Neil Young Comes a Time 
i now this album very well but not heard it like this before, the attack of the guitars, the extra resolution and bite of the guitars was nothing short of amazing, there was more snap to the drum beat, the top end is so much more realistic and enjoyable, while the mid range has gained resolution and body, the vocals are very natural sounding but also revealing, the bass seems to have improved, there is definitely more of it
its early days but im keeping them and i am very happy with level 3, my speakers are soundlabs dynastats,
Is anyone else using Maximum Super Tweeters ? and are your findings the same or similar to mine i am really happy with mine its another case of how did i live without them all comments and experiences are very welcome thank you
mains

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Anyone have a link to the Townshend super tweeters here on Audiogon?  Not finding any using search.
Oh, I'll be using with KEF 107 speakers.  Any thoughts on hook-up welcome.  Specifically, will the KEF KUBE produce a problem with these?  I understand the KUBE boosts the bass a bit...seems like not a good thing to feed a super tweeter, unless they have a high-pass?  Alternatively, I could feed the super tweeter from my Peachtree Decco 2 (would only drive the super tweeter, currently acting as preamp).  My main amp (powering the 107's) is an Audire Forte.  Also opinions on how important placement will be.  Thoughts welcome!
Thanks!  Should be here next Monday, can't wait!  Hopefully the reviews agree with what my ears hear.  I read a review that they're a great match with KEF 107's!
Here's the review that sealed the deal for me, from the Analogue Seduction website (customer review).  Since I have KEF 107's, I'm hoping to hear just what James heard!

" Towhshend Maximum Super TweetersWednesday, 6 April 2016 |  James

Well... I purchased these more to satisfy my curiosity after reading about how they could take a good system and add more clarity and coherence across the entire frequency spectrum. I have had them in my system for three days now and by golly, they really do work. As stated elsewhere, if you isolate them you can just barely hear something going on but it is hardly high in output or very recognizable as musical at least that I can detect anyway. However, add them back to your full-range speakers and it is a whole different story. I recently rebuilt my aging KEF R107 speakers that had ceased working due to completely disintegrated surrounds on all four woofers and tweeters with their voice coils stuck in 30 year old, dried up Ferro Fluid. With rebuild woofers and having disassembled, cleaned and recharged the tweeters, they were sounding very fine indeed so there was no compelling reason to fuss with them by adding super tweeters but boy, am I glad I did! These are still one of the best sounding speakers I have ever heard but with the super tweeter added in, they are elevated to something truly special. The claims others have made are all accurate. The clarity, space and ease across the entire spectrum is not subtle. My wife who knows nothing about any of this when asked to take a listed after I had installed them commented that the system sounded better than ever and proceeded to pretty much describe the improvements in similar terms. Keep in mind she had no idea the tweeters had been added and so was in no way biased. That is a pretty strong commendation in my book. Anyway, these things are really something special and you don't need to have perfect hearing to appreciate the improvements. I am testament to that because my hearing is hardly in pristine shape after all the years of playing in a rock band on the side off an on for the last 45 years. Highly recommended!"

Good to hear, ozzy!  I hope to hear the same results!  Certainly not a cheap "tweak" or "add-on" but hopefully worth it.  With them, my system should cover sub 20Hz - 90khz, not bad!  Mostly, I hope it adds that extra little bit of "air" and speed (high treble) that the KEF's are lacking a bit...not a lot, just a bit, when compared to electrostatics, planars, ribbons.
Thoughts after a few weeks:

- Not what I expected, for better or for worse! :)  I used to have some Apogee speakers with a very large ribbon, that really beamed the sound intensely right at you...sometimes I liked this, and I was expecting some of that...these don't do that, I suspect because the ribbon is much smaller and operates at a higher frequency range.

- It can be hard to discern if the super tweeters are doing anything, sometimes!  Again, could be good or bad.  If I turn the super tweeters off, the speakers still sound good on their own.  If I turn them on, still the same sound signature, but everything stepped up a notch!  If I turn just one side on and the other side off, you get a fairly strong "pull" to the side that is on...this is how I can tell they are definitely doing "something."  If you play the super tweeters on their own, you get faint "music" playing through them.

The comments above may seem like they are not worth it.  I suppose that is debatable.  I didn't find the improvement to be super-dramatic, as if changing speakers...but they did seem to IMPROVE the speakers, all-around...as much or moreso than changing an amplifier or preamp.  So if you like your speakers now, you'll probably like them even a little more if you add the super tweeters.  If you're looking for a vastly different sound, these aren't going to provide that, just improve what's already there.

I don't have golden ears and I have ZERO room treatments, and even some acoustic instruments in the room (adding resonance), so I may not even be hearing all they can do, but I DO definitely notice a difference/improvement throughout the speakers' frequency range.  Somehow the super tweeters seem to improve the PRAT (pace, rhythm, and timing...not sure how this is possible) and add to the realism of the sound and add slightly more air.  Cymbals definitely a bit more natural sounding as well.  

Hope that helps!  Interested to hear from others as well :)