ASR listen with measurements only. Not earshot seems very clinical to me and there are things we cannot measure I’m convinced.
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Using “Science” sort of forces something that the quantified and provable.
There are also things that we do not measure. And measurements that the manufacturer does not often provide.
The ensemble of those things are correlated with what people like and find to sound good. A lot of those people are running similar gear to what people here run.
It is not by shear coincidence that good sounding gear often measures good.
if someone cannot find a good sounding set of speakers for <- $5k, then they are not looking hard enough. And some people also factor in looks over sound.
Per @ghdprentice: "This is one of the major challenges… and I think can be a real distraction… highly detailed. I was drawn to detail… but kept finding it got in the way of the music. You can have both… this is typically where lots of money is required, otherwise you get lots of detail and fatigue / high frequency hash… or warm and missing detail."
-- What you've written above makes sense to me. I'm more in the musical camp if pushed but recall not preferring Monitor and enjoying Sonus Faber much more (at lower cost levels, under 5k). It's hard to get high resolution and musicality/tonality at a certain price point. It's just how it seems to be, then there's the good stuff...
As nice as the Dynaudio Saphhires (ca: 16k, but bought used) were for five years, they were still missing the detail and wonderful richness of tone that the Raidho D2 loudspeakers showed me were possible (but no head-banging volumes).
But speakers like those were never in a "New Retail" range for me so your point on 'where lots of money is required' is well taken; I just got lucky, and appreciate it. I also like TAD, Tidal, etc. and those aren't free...
I'm not sure our O.P. will find the 'match' to all the requirements listed, some merely due to equipment interactions. I didn't see heavy metal volumes listed as a requirement, but that might just be missing. Without the need to play very loudly there may be some other small sophisticated speakers that perhaps might apply.
based on maggie’s lasting commercial success and continual improvement, i would hardly say they are a ’best kept secret’... that said, many a high end audiophile spending big bucks on traditional dynamic driver-based speakers haven’t given them a fair chance, and are much worse off for that
notwithstanding their immensely good sound and value, one does need to deal with the placement demands of a true dipole radiator, and their looks...
as for amps, while maggies do make certain non-negotiable demands on the driving amplifier, there are many many out there that can do the job well and sound great doing it