Topping Dacs D-50, DX-7, and DX7s


These things are dirt cheap and getting some hyped up talk. Can change the filtering ect ect and uses the top Sabre dac chip, not pro.

https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-d50-dac.24...

Cheers George
128x128georgehifi

It's fun watching the hobby change George. This should be a fun thread.

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

Yeah I know what you mean Michael, I’m tempted to buy one of them. Even though they are Delta Sigma just so I can do DSD with.

Cheers George
Holy cow! For $249 the new challenger climbs into the ring and scores a quick knockout  and threatens the big boys! The only thing missing is an extra 0 in the price! Look out Shiit!
The only thing missing is snob appeal! Now where is that extra 0 in the price?

Yep, I think it was around 2012 when I starting getting in these affordable highenders, removed the chassis, and said to myself "it won't be long now". Important thread George!!

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

You guys think it’s better than the Modi Multibit? They don’t indicate if the 5v power supply is included and no mention of how many amps.
You guys think it’s better than the Modi Multibit?

It’s got almost the top ESS dac’s one for each channel I believe, someone said this,
"D50 and D7s use 2 x ES9038Q2M - ie one chip for each channel."

But as far as doing Redbook goes, I’m for Multibit still, but if you want to do DSD then this is hard to pass up, especially on Massdrop for $199 when they appear, I say now you'll need a trigger finger on the buy now button.

Cheers George
@kalali.
Pretty sure the article references having to supply your own power supply, not a great hardship as that way you can invest in a halfway decent ps not the usual cheap walwart. Or USB power is suggested will work too.

For the price it looks like a clear winner!
I'm tempted to buy one and put it downstream of my Node2 and see how it sounds. It might even be worth getting an LPS but like I'd need the amper rating on the power supply to get the right one.
The charging plug seems to take a charger like the one came with my Chromcast Audio.
If you do be sure to report back and let us know how it sounds!

You would likely need to email topping for their recommendation on ps size and rating to be safe
The Topping DACs seem to measure much better (with stock power supplies, no less) than the Schiit Bifrost and Yggdrasil. At least you’ll have a better chance at getting a properly engineered product.

I’m certainly tempted. If I ever have a need for an inexpensive DAC, the D50 will be at the top of the list.
Bought a D50 based on Amir’s measurements. I compared it extensively to the Chord 2Qute I had for a while (which connected to a PrimaLuna integrated and Tekton DI).
The Topping D50 sounds the same, but it is much much cheaper. Highly recommended at ~$200. I am using a Anker battery pack for D50. Works great.
I ordered one of the D50’s from Amazon. I’ll use an external 5V-1A (20,000mAh capacity) battery power cell as the power source I have around the house. Should be interesting. 
My Topping D50 arrived on Friday. Amazingly compact yet weighs 480g (see pics). The SQ is shockingly good. Though I need to listen to the system with it installed for a longer session to get a sense of its overall SQ, preliminary listening suggests it processes Redbook CD digital audio with better frequency response extension and control than my beloved R2R Theta DSPro Basic IIIa DAC. Battery-powered, with the DAC set for max output.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/chLj3WdJiSAu5Kid6
I use the old Topping D20 in one of my systems - a great DAC for PCM duties. I'd pit it against any oversampling, filtered DAC. 
An interesting article. But unless I missed something the author did not mention how it sounds??? I remember when I first bought a Benchmark DAC and it measured very well, but many people complained it sounded clinical. I was not bothered by that, but everything you hear or buy has it’s own leaning (sonic signature) Again the author did not mention any sound characteristic just that it’s dirt cheap for the measurements???
@2psyop

You make it seem like measurements don’t directly tell us how it sounds. If anything, the Benchmark sounding clinical (dead accurate, not forgiving) is a compliment. If you don’t wanna hear how your music actually sounds, then don’t buy a DAC that is transparent, though most are, only stuff like Schiit and Audio-GD will add “color”. Same reason my grandma doesn’t like daylight LEDS in her house, as they show her pores.
Just saying I think I care about many things related to a dac...including how it sounds. There are many factors I consider when buying a car. The quality of the parts, reputation of the company, the performance, reliability, warranty, etc, etc. The practicality is a big issue for some and fun factor is a big one issue for others. A car can perform perfectly and not be any fun to drive. Not trying to say measurements are not important, but I care about other things too...
perhaps the price is attractive combined with measurements, that is what is important for you.
If it's not the pro then it's not the top ESS saber chip. The top chip is the 9038 pro. And it's incredible sounding very analog, I have it in my wyred for sound 10th anniversary dac. It's very difficult to work with so I don't know if the Chinese are smart enough LOL
If it's not the pro then it's not the top ESS saber chip. The top chip is the 9038 pro. And it's incredible sounding very analog, I have it in my wyred for sound 10th anniversary dac. It's very difficult to work with so I don't know if the Chinese are smart enough LOL
They’re certainly smarter than you.