Tonearms that work well with better Koetsu stone body cartridges


Hi

I have my heart set on buying one of the better stone body Koetsu cartridges. The problem is I’m having a problem finding a tonearm that’s supposed to be a great match. I’ve read that they sound best with higher mass tonearms. The problem is, not every manufacturer will list the effective mass of their tonearms. I am leaning towards the Kuzma 4 point (11”) and the Ikeda 407. Does anyone know the effective mass of the Ikeda 407? If there are any others that work well with the Koetsu’s please let me know. I prefer new, not used. Thank you.

Scot
scothurwitz

Showing 2 responses by millercarbon

"to the point of irrelevance" is close enough to no impact for me.

I miss zero nuance. If anyone is missing nuance it’s the ones still saying compliance is so important. It is- if your arm is crap. If your arm is good then it by definition doesn’t really matter what cartridge you put on it. The arm that is only capable of making certain cartridges sound good is by definition not a good arm. It is a picky arm. It is a specialized arm. It is an arm that can be used with good results only with a very limited selection of cartridges.

That’s the nuance I’m trying to get across.

What gets me, these are all very high end arms and cartridges we are talking about. I could understand if it were budget gear. Cheap arm, compromises must be made. To pay a couple hundred for an arm, and it really only works well with certain carts, fine. A worthy compromise. Totally understandable.

But this is not cheap gear we are talking about here. To pay big money only to get an arm you have to change and buy yet another big money arm just to use an even bigger money cartridge, that is just nuts. That is like, "Thank you sir, may I have another!"

If that’s too visually nuanced, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZoVO8ZyyQ (Notice the one dishing it out, is enjoying it.)
This whole subject is in my opinion concocted as an excuse for some guys to feel good about having bought bad arms. Instead of defining a good arm as one on which all cartridges sound good they break them down into arbitrary mass categories and say it is the users who are bad for not being able to figure out which few of the many cartridges out there will sound good on their less than good arms.

This is all so very easily avoided. Simply buy a good arm! Origin Live makes fabulous arms. I know, mine is awesome. Got a Koetsu on it right now. Never ever even bothered to look up its mass, or compliance, because these things simply do not matter when you have a good arm. Which I do. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 Because, Origin Live. https://www.originlive.com/cartridge-compliance-tonearm-effective-mass-cartridges-work-well-origin-l... Read and learn:

compliance is well down the scale of significant factors to the point of irrelevance in a good arm. You may find those who will argue with this but they always seem to relate matching issues they’ve had with other arms and not an Origin Live one.
"Compliance is well down the scale of significant factors to the point of irrelevance in a good arm." For the record, that is Mark Baker. Not me. Anyone got an issue with what we just said, take it up with Mark Baker. 😁