Tom Evens Groove Plus

sorry mike
another contributing factor that i have found that can cause
the sort of sound you describe is temperature
if like here in the uk autumn is upon us
colder temperatures affect cartridge and loudspeaker performance
i use a 150w lamp above my turntable
this seems to help quite a bit
best regards
uktel

hi mike
i have found that at different times audio systems do sound better than at others
weekends for instance and evenings seem to yield the best sound quality
i believe that the wheels of industry [particularly computers] hash up the electrical supply
however
the burn in period can throw up some weird and wonderful changes
do you leave it powered up all the time?
i find that from cold it takes a good hour of passing music
before it starts to really perform and then continues to improve slowely thereafter
is your cartridge fully run in?
best of luck
uktel

i also have an audiophile friend who uses a klyne 7 and another who has just bought the new audio research phono amp
we have just finished our comparison using the three cartridges that i currently own
jan allaerts mc1s 11 koetsu 80th anniversary[onix] and ortofon jubilee
the experiment was carried out in my own system through
my newly aquired vibe pulse2 preamp
in this system the groove plus absolutely smashed the other phono amps
and did so with all three cartridges
the thing to understand is this was to be the expected result
in my own system which has been optomised to be as phase flat and as linear as i can manage for my limited funds
the key issue i am trying to state is system synergy
if a groove plus doesn't work spectacularly in a given system the question has to be why not?
the groove plus is so revealing that it does show up any weaknesses in the other equipment
many valve amps struggle with the groove because they thenselves are phase inverting which basicly kills the grooves performance
i personally would not change my groove plus for the world at this moment in time as i now seem to spend so much time
just listening to music
best regards
UKTEL

gmc
just trying to slam in a pair of linear Bs
absolutely awesome
music does'nt get much better?
the linear a is one of the most revealing amps out there
but sadly the Bs are in existence
god help me
uktel

hi gmc and mike
gmc are youre speakers bi ampable
i dont know your speakers personally
i recently had a chat with tom evans regarding speakers with
low impedance in the bass units
he suggested 2 x linear As but both with the high impedance
and low impedance transformers in the same chassis and using them as monos
so effectively one linear a drives the left speaker
low imp for bass high for treble
the other drives the right speaker
in this configuration you would also get a 2 or 3 db volume increase
interesting thought eh?
has anybody else out there tried the pulse2
its as ugly as sin[looks like a small linear a]
it is meant to be quite an upgrade over the pulse
i havn"t heard them side by side so cannot actually comment on this myself
all the best fellas
uk tel

hi gmc
had to ring tom evans up to try to answer your'e last question as i have not ABd the pulse/pulse2 myself
what he said was the 2 is far superior in the frequency
extremes with far greater top to bottom wallop
the difference he claims is not subtle
one thing i have noticed in my own system is that the backing singers have the same sense of power and in room presence as the main vocalist
i asked tom if he wouldn't mind popping in and having a chat with us all
fingers crossed eh
best regards
uktel

hi pedrillo
it really depends upon the rest of your system
siting of the groove+ is also critical
avoid metal supports and try to keep it far away from large
transformers
i truly believe the groove+ is a top flight performer
but system synergy [and correct loading] will be the final
judge
best regards
uktel

hi gmc
if tom continues to lower that noise floor
how long will it be before molten lava spews up out of our speakers?
did you know that tom designed a turntable power supply
for bob benn of sound engineering
bob sells these in the us
well worth checking out
best regards
uktel

hang on in there mike
good things do come for those who wait
cmc
have you heard the linear Bs
they really are something special
after i heard the full te amp combo i found that i couldn't
listen to my own system for weeks
after plussing the groove, adding the vibe pulse
i feel i am much closer
i really cant wait to get those Bs though
they really do close the gap between being there and hifi
uktel

hi patrick
good post
much of what you say is indeed correct
however
in my experience
bandwidth, linearity ,dynamic range,phase integrity,neutrality are what makes the groove special to me
and lets not mentoin that inky black background
i have lent my groove out to friends and have had positive
and negative reactions to its performance
but all who have heard it in my own system understand why
i rate it so highly
today i had an interesting experience
a friend of mine has fallen in love with the performance of
the living voice aviator obxr loudspeakers
he has been offered an ex demo pair of mk1s for 2750
or he can buy a new pair of mk2s for circa 4000
he has ordered tead amps and asked me if i wouldn't mind
using my system for a home dem
obviously i agreed
the result was the mk2s worked in my system and the mk1s didn't

when questioning the dealer about this he replied
the phasing and linearity of the mk2s has been greatly improved via the crossover network which is now simpler.
the mk1s sounded flat and disjointed in comparison
my friend did order the mk2s [lucky so and so]
the point i do try to make in my posts is about system synergy
to get the best out of any product you must first fully
understand its potential and its limitations
for instance
if i place my groove+ upon a metal support my system instantly fails to perform
almost to the same degree as the living voice speaker demo
in my experience this is true for all other high end audio products as well.
have you actually heard the full tead amp?
or have i upset you with my phase nverting comment?
if so my most sincere apologies to you
what i should have said is phase linearity
we all understand that there is more than one way to create great music in the home
but we all have our own experiences good or bad.
thank you for correcting me on that one
best regards
uktel