To modify or not to mod..... that is the question.



With as much vinyl as i have been playing (4-6 hours a day) a new cartridge is looking about 6 months away or so. A DV-20x is on the table (P25) and im very satisfying with the sound as is, but the idea of spending $500+ to replace it is not very exciting!. I would like to get the OL or Expresimo mods (not sure which one ... convince me!!) to the arm and from what i read should expect a good increase in sonics. What im wondering is with the increase in the arms ability(with mods) is it enough to offset stepping down to a lower priced cartridge, say a DV- 10x4 (or equivalent). In other words, will the rb-600 with mods and 10x4 sound as good as an rb-600 and 20x without?. I realize that every cartridge has its own sound signature and they are bound to sound different, but any help with the pros and cons would be of help! ..... thanks

Bill....
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Inna ......WHAT!! no vinyl front end?.. i feel for ya.... let me tell you, you don't know what your missing. Iv got a grate idea, $450 will get you a lightly used rb-600. Add that to what ever table you want and you can listen to some of that vinyl now! instead of someday. That is! what this is all about ... music.... right!?

Twl..... Maybe i will try and sell the rb- 600 (to Inna?) and get a OL silver... Thanks!!

Bill...
Inna ... if you can sell me a Nottingham Spacedeck or a Interspace with aDV-20x for the $900 the P25 cost me than i will be happy to take it off your hands!! ...... Until then, any “HELP” in improving the sound of the table that i have would be appreciated. No doubt a P25 is far from the final word in vinyl play back but at its price point its not bad. I bet there are people who could pick holes in the value of the Nottingham tables to, but i wont be so presumptuous!.
Twl.... I thought about just what you suggested ie: getting a Silver tone arm but have been a little unsure on just how much better the silver is than a modified rb-600 and the ability to sell the stock arm for $450 or so. The Denon DL103R sounds like a good bet but i would need a different stage than the Monolithic ps-1/hc-1 combo i have as it only has 53 db gain (any suggestions? maybe a step up transformer?) The problem here is budget. Seeing as this will need to be a $300 or so every 6 months or so im guessing the order goes something like ...arm, cart/stage, table someday. On the subject of mods, what is the difference between the OL end stub mount and the EX Lock down stub .. Why is one better than the other?...

Thanks......Bill
Inna ......WHAT!! no vinyl front end?.. i feel for ya.... let me tell you, you don't know what your missing. Iv got a grate idea, $450 will get you a lightly used rb-600. Add that to what ever table you want and you can listen to some of that vinyl now! instead of someday. That is! what this is all about ... music.... right!?

Twl..... Maybe i will try and sell the rb- 600 (to Inna?) and get a OL silver... Thanks!!

Bill...
Here is a question for you ...... will OL silvers arm counter weight fit under the dust cover on a P-25. If i remember right i think i saw a picture of your table (twl) and your OL arm had a Heavy weight? or at least different than the standard counter weight ... did it improve the sound ??

Bill