TIDAL &/vs Amazon HD


TIDAL vs Amazon HD - I’d like some more experienced input (mostly on TIDAL), and offer some of my experience.

Quick relevant system summary: HEOS Link Station2, (Rega Apollo - Original), MIT AVt3 Coax, Marantz AV7702MKII, Audioquest "Water" (Balanced), SMC Audio "GOLD" DNA 0.5, MIT AVt2 (x2-(Bi-wire)), Vandersteen Quatro (original cloth).

Quick Summary: For a few short weeks, I have been listening to Amazon HD (14.99/mo), and I am in AWE, WOW’d, disbelief. It makes what I had been listening to not even worthy of mention (Apollo CD as a transport over MIT AVt3 Coax). However, the technical geek in me rather dislikes the separate HEOS LS2 and being piped in via the coax configuration (I am on the brink of upgrading to a Marantz unit that has HEOS built/baked in just for that reason).

Just yesterday (10/27/2020), I discovered "Roon" ($11.99/mo) believing it could/would manage my Amazon streaming, and pipe it directly through the Ethernet connection on the AV7702MKII and completely bypass the coax connected HEOS LS2 altogether . Upon installation and configuration of Roon, I was disappointed find out it only managed Qobuz and TIDAL ($19.99), and not Amazon HD.

I decided to test drive the Roon/TIDAL (call it $32/mo) combo to see how it performed compared to the Amazon HD ($14.99/mo) I have been listening to for a few weeks.

The difference was rather staggering. On my configuration, Amazon HD over a HEOS LS2 and MIT AVt3 Coax very (let me emphasize that "very") comfortably out performed TIDAL in either or both of a Roon Stream configuration or account/subscription brokered through the same HEOS LS2 combo.

I want to be impressed with TIDAL, but in/thru/with my configuration, when compared to Amazon HD, I am not, not close.

What can I (reasonably) do to prove to myself that TIDAL is better than I have gotten to this point?
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Showing 1 response by strateahed

When Amazon HD became available, I transferred all my playlists from Spotify. It seemed like the logical thing to do because I already had Amazon Prime. At the time, I was streaming from laptop, Amazon desktop app via USB to DAC. Or sometimes I'd go "line-in" to pre-amp via Echo Dot. Kind of makeshift deal, but it worked. Couldn't really tell much difference between Amazon and Tidal SQ in that configuration. Amazon HD price - $12.99/mo & Tidal $19.99/mo, so no brainer. 

Then I got a Bluesound Node 2i a few weeks ago. I'm going Bluesound -> DAC via coax. Though unexpected, I tried out Qobuz and IMHO, it was clearly better sounding than Amazon HD on both CD quality and Hi-Rez.

Given that both services stream 16-bit/44.1 Khz & 24-bit 96Khz/ 192Khz, and over the same system downstream ... I don't understand how this is happens.  But it does. [Maybe somebody can explain that in laymen's terms]

Now when I threw Tidal back into the mix, something interesting happened:  Tidal became the new reference; but ONY for MQA tracks. In my system and to my ears, it's the best of all of them.  

I listen to a lot of Blue Note jazz from the 60's, as well as Trane and Miles on Columbia, Impulse, Atlantic, and Prestige - mostly from 50's and 60's. I've heard certain tracks/albums many times going back 40+ years. Going back and forth between the same albums and cuts ... for example Herbie Hancock "The Prisoner" or Wayne Shorter "Speak No Evil", Tidal comes closest to the originals. But again, that's ONLY for the MQA stuff.

In terms of CD-quality offerings, Qobuz beats the competition, and for Hi-Rez it's only slightly behind Tidal - by the slimmest of margins. Comparing library sizes, and titles, Amazon is the clear choice. 

Conclusion: I cancelled Amazon HD, effective with the next billing cycle. There are about 2 or 3 weeks left on the Qobuz /Tidal trials, and as of right now, taking everything into consideration, I'm going with Qobuz. Well, that's my take on it. YMMV


Happy Listening!