Might want to post/link a Phase angle and impedance graph
along with your room size these are the pertinent points
better than should work opinions.
The Threshold Stasis amps were among the first high current designed amps available… ~1980. I owned a Threshold s500 for nearly two decades. When I replaced it with a Pass x350 the Threshold sounded completely anemic and tinny without a real midrange. Subsequent Pass designs have improved the sound by leaps and bounds. While I loved the Threshold at the time. You couldn’t give me one. If you want sound quality fast forward a few decades.
I believe the efficiency of those speakers is 88 db for 1 watt at 1 meter. Not the most efficient. I ran a Threshold Cas2 with Linn Kan II (85 db efficiency) and loved the sound. I have to admit the Cas2 has the longest warm up period I have ever experienced. Sounded great in 15 minutes but an hour or so in, it goes to superb. I'm guessing the mid and high will be excellent but the bass might not be as fully driven. I'd probably pull the trigger, especially if it was priced sweetly.
I dont have the specifications for the 2ci since the Vandersteen does not have it available on the website. I am awaiting response.
@highend64 not validated, worth re-checking, have these notes on the Vandersteen 2CI Spec:
¾ inch aluminum dome tweeter, 4 ½ “ plastic cone midrange, 8” cone woofer, and a 10” active cone radiator that handles frequencies below 35 Hz. Fequency response is 28 Hz - 20.125 kHz at + or - 3db. Its impedance is at 7 ohms nominal and 5 ohms minimum, efficiency 88db for 1 watt at one meter.
AMP: Threshold alternative, Forte’ 1a, or Forte’ Model 3, upgraded and converted:
My Pass/Forte’ Model amp is recently reconfigured to Forte’ 1a, pure Class A 50 watts now. Voltage down, bias up. Has four new 30kuf big power caps, large Torroid transformer, new bridge rectifiers, Cardas binding posts, spade connectors removed. All soldered. Not lean at all, very musical, more grunt, 47c, runs Warm at heat sinks. It’s a giant killer now. Will drive your 2ci, no issues, all goodness :)
Tend to agree, argh. Had a Parasound A23+ for 45 days myself. Bought it 2nd hand from a chap who owned it a year. Plenty broken in. Was gonna use it as a backup amp. Ended up reselling it to a new owner who was okay with it. Nice build quality, nothing special about the sound in my system, just barely okay, unfortunately. Hopefully others have better luck with this unit, maybe so.
Comparing the two in my system, it’s not even close when talking upgraded/updated Class A Threshold, Forte Audio, to that particular Parasound unit. Quite a startling difference fwiw.
I am not sure if it was rebuilt but I can also get the model FET Two pre with it. I did some research notice that the S/150 models that some have the mkii. The model that the person is selling has the speaker binding post vertical where some I see was horizontal.
It’s your $$ May point was have old capacitors in it you are inviting disaster
it’s like having 25 year old tires on your car, the dielectric and cap inside is falling apart ,especially going back 20 + years capacitor technologies was not that great.
I have been into Audio for over 40 years and have tech friends we have literally cut capacitors apart , unless you plan on having it upgraded when you buy it then
not such a good deal and bunches of other parts internally are on their way out
it’s like buying a older car with 150k on the mileage , and with audio one bad part can take out several with it , been. There done that . Much better off buying new
you didnot mention. How much $$ you were spending .it will cost you minimum of $1500 to rebuild this amp
I understand your analogy and you make a valid point but I don’t know the condition of the amp. It could be near mint or have some wear and tear, I don’t know but that is why questions has to asked. Would you by a car that is 30 years old with 30k, probably or tires that are new from way back when , probably.
@highend64 if you buy/use one of these 30 year old amps, the main power caps and bits regularly get replaced as others have mentioned. Has to do with age, not the condition of the amp alone. Check with different techs in your area, best of luck.
I have not made a commitment on the amp yet. All I was asking if the Threshold was enough to drive the Vandersteen. My budget is less then 1.5k.
yes… for a speaker in production since 1977 w 250 k sold in many variants including NOW, the 2 like ALL Vandersteen products is designed to be an EASY load…no ultra low impedance dips or bizare phase angles, etc…
My brother gets excellent results w a slightly larger Threshold and the 3a-signature
Join us at Vandersteen owners forum…. lots of 2 owners can tell you what amps they use.
Do pay some attention to age of unit and VERY possible need for recap..