Thoughts on the Linn LP12 turntable


I don’t see many discussions that include the Linn Sondek LP12 turntable and was wondering why? They’ve been around since the late 70’s and other then power supply and a few other minor changes (IMO) are relatively unchanged. I had one in the early 80’s and another in the late 90’s. They are somewhat finicky to get setup correct and once you do, they sound great. That being said I know there have been a lot better designs to come out since the LP12’s hey-day. Are they worth considering  anymore or has the LP12 just become another audio vintage collectors item?

markcooperstein

What's bad?

Stolen design? (AR, Thorens td150, Ariston)

A giant money pit?

Unauthentic timbre?

Dodgy top plates on pre 2000 models?

Needs regular specialist servicing?

Motor mounting issues?

Needs a better arm than the Ittok?

Temporal anomalies?

Outdated design?

Uncompetitively priced?

 

All true in my experience.

 

So what's good about it?

An audiophile icon?

Better bandwidth than budget decks?

Neverending upgrade options?

 

Also true in my experience.

 

So what's the problem then?

 

I believe that its crucial problem is the way that the subchassis is balanced on top of 3 compressed springs, each of them bearing a different load.

Therefore the heavy platter is free to drift over time. Remember that the rather flimsy belt and the pliable arm cable is working with the  springs in keeping the platter/subchassis in position.

 

Whichever way you look at it, it's not a particularly secure way of keeping it there, is it?

Yes, you can use it without an optimal setup, but if you do, it's a very ordinary sounding deck that way.

Very.

To keep its lovely air and bloom, the suspension must be optimised.

And therein lies it's main problem.

 

There's a good video here showing how it's built.

Make of it what you will.

 

 

 

 

@cd318   Says the man who doesn't even own a turntable, never mind a Linn!

Keep going, I'm beginning to enjoy this--;0)

I own a Linn.  The design is about as basic as you get.  It does not have the flash some of the new models I've seen for sale.  But, as for sound output and with the right cartridge and pre-amp, it competes with anything.  I've done upgrades from time to time over the years, and my edition doesn't come close to the cost of what you would pay for a new one.  But I have a majority of what the new ones have to offer.  Anyone can buy an old LP12 for relatively low cost, and upgrade the key components and have a very nice table.  I love mine.  As a comparison, its analog output competes with my SACD play.  

I’ve heard various LP-12s over the years and even lived with one for a while. It is an exceptional table and its biggest fault is that it is deceptively simple. That’s why so many underestimate it. But make no mistake, the LP-12 is capable of outstanding sound when properly set up in the right system. My personal preference is for a much higher mass table, but I have nothing but respect for the Linn.

Linn has its hard core detractors, similar to McIntosh, and I’ve never understood their motivation. What’s the value of expending energy on something you don’t like?