Thinking out of the box here. It might make some defensive


I was thinking, that all the different wire constructions and purities is pointless if they are tied to a connecter. How can the signal carry the purist signal when it has to be compromised by the mercy of a connecter. Why not make a solid wire out of the connecter and use the bare wire for the connecter? Same end result. I’m not an engineer but it seems to me it would sound the same. Right? The end product is only as good as its weakest link. I’m beginning to think speaker cables are too over rated . I switched out my $1500 cables for some 10 gauge $20 copper wire with bare ends and I will say if there was any difference it was slight. I do know my amp doesn’t clip like it used too. And music is louder and more dynamic. I tried some 12 gauge and couldn’t tell any difference from the 10. And yes all the cable lengths were 8 foot. If you want the purist signal then you would have to take the wire and run it right through the speaker and bypass the terminals. So my question to the electrical educated members here is how can the signal arrive intact if it has to be transmitted through a connecter and then to the speaker terminals. It makes me think speaker wire is not all that important. I’m just saying. I don’t mean to be starting a war here.
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This all just reinforces my decision to completely eliminate all cables and power cords and connectors. It’s called distortion avoidance. No more speakers cables, no more interconnects, no more house AC, no more Ground, no more power cords, no more digital cable, no more connectors. No more teacher’s dirty looks. 👀 And running low power completely avoids noise and distortion from large capacitors, AC ground issues, transformers and fuses since there, uh, aren’t any. You have to die and be reborn. What’s it sound like? Like heaven. Big things have small beginnings. There’s no substitute for signal to noise ratio.
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It all comes down to Signal to Noise + Distortion Ratio. This is where conductivity and purity of metals, noise (RFI/EMI/magnetic field/static electric field) rejection, anti vibration, wire directionality, minimizing losses at electrical contacts, things of that nature, come into play. I’m surprised electrical engineers don’t grasp that. Aerospace Engineers sure do. 🚀 🤡
So, it’s more kind of a belief thing as opposed to experimentation or experience. Interesting. 🤡
Due to some overlooked factors that oft arise, comparing cables is fraught with difficulties. For one thing when people switch cables they destroy the subtle mechanical electrical interface of the connectors that takes time to reestablish itself, I don’t know - a few days? Also, many times cables are not broken in when evaluated. Thus, most cable comparisons are invalid. They can all sort of sound the same. It’s not that easy to generalize about cables for other reasons too. Like how many thumbs the tester has, etc.
“Your hearing is simply not that good and there is no need to get defensive about it.”

Whoa! Hey! What? Ban this person! 🤡
The issues with cables and connectors are most certainly complicated by the directionality of wire and by any number of contact enhancers or conditioners such as the new Graphene product and say, Deoxit. Obviously a good clean mechanical connection should be achieved in any case.

“I switched out my $1500 cables for some 10 gauge $20 copper wire with bare ends and I will say if there was any difference it was slight. I do know my amp doesn’t clip like it used too. And music is louder and more dynamic.”

Frankly, the difference doesn’t appear to be “slight” the way you described it. You know, your “amp doesn’t clip like it used to, the music is louder and more dynamic.”