Hi Steve, The Eggleston Speakers was easier to do because of the size. But they do weight 170 lbs each too. I will have someone for sure helping me. Thanks again. |
I would rate the Thiel's on a 1 to 10 scale?
Very close to a 9. Sure glad that I found these gems. |
What I have found as someone who has been writing and Composing music with Ray Ellis and Marc Ellis his son, is that these speakers are like Vandersteen 5A'S with much more detail on top end, but less just( a little less bass) on the lower freq..So Getting two subwoofers will give you what the recording REALLY SOUNDS LIKE. Yep, In a Audiophile Recording.If you're reading this I see why Mr. Thiel loved these great speakers that you don't have to ROB A BANK TO HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And If you want to come over to my my house and bring your favorite RECORDING I'll show you!!!!!!The truth is in the pudding!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hi Steve in what way are the Vandersteen 5A's different then the Thiel's? |
Hi Tony how far apart do you have yours in your setup? |
Hi Steve thanks for getting back to me. I also learned that the earlier models where using a concrete baffel that did crack on some CS6'S. My question is that it was replaced with another material .Do you know if this changed the sound QUALITY? |
Hi Tony I just asked Steve the same question. Have you ever talked to anyone with your same speaker, that has the concrete baffel or the newer material that it was replaced with. I'm wondering if the sound still had the same signature? |
Thanks everyone for getting back to me regarding the Thiel Speakers. I just spoke to a local dealer who carried my Eggleston Andra 1 & Thiel's, and he said that they come very close in peformance. Just that the Thiel will have much better bass extension.
That's what I needed to hear and the direction I want to go. |
Steve before I get the Thiel's. I wanted to ask you if my Pass Labs X250 which I love, will be a good match? Please let me know. Thanks Bruce |
Update: Thiel's will be arriving next week.
And I will be comparing the Eggleston's to them.
Who will be the winner? |
Hi Steve, Nelson and his crew worked on my Pass Labs X-250 for two weeks around 6 years ago. It was having a slight noise problem that was coming from the right channel. while working on it, and trying to solve the problem. The new circuitry that's used in the X-250.5 was developed. Boy I got lucky!You could say my amp was the prototype that became the X-250.5. Nelson even told me on the phone, that it was a much better amp then the X-350. So I'm sure it will be fine.
Crazy but true story Steve. |
Hi Gundam91 and Tony Thanks for getting back to me as well.
Just so you know a little bit about myself. I've spent 40 years in Recording Studios, Master Labs and Record Companies.I've worked as a Composer/Lyrist/Vocalist & Assistant Engineer, on many projects in Los Angeles. I've been very lucky to work with great Musical Giants who where
Composers and Arrangers like Ray Ellis/Billie Holiday/Lady In Satin/ and so so much more that he did. His son Marc who's my best and we're still working on Projects today Who's done/The Movie Anchorman/ Master Of Disguise/and so much more. Another great friend of mine and another best friend that I miss. Jim Helms/The Kung Fu T.V. Series/ UFO Chronicals & 16 movie's of the week. Peter Anders Songwriter/and so on.. So I take this Music we all love very serious.
The Room that I have measures 18'L X 14' But opens up into my Dinning Area that is 13' L X 9' W
And the measurements that Mr Thiel has in his Manual is darn close to where I have the Eggleston Andra's. Only difference is that they're 8'.5" Center to center. In the manual it says 8' But because of the room opening up as it does, into the Dinning Area it could change.
On my review I will listen to Classical,Jazz,Rythum And Blues,Pop, Rock, Alternative, Music For Organ, Bass And Timpani and County that I've been writing with Marc ever since someone very BiG RIPPED US OFF on a Pop tune that was meant for Vanessa Williams back in 1990's.
Just to let you all know, I'm hoping that the Thiel's are the the ones I'm going to be living with for now! They're not so easy to move.... |
Correction on my Amp. It could of been 7 years that it was worked on . Boy does time fly... |
Hi Tony my Thiel's arrived yesterday. I never told you that they're also in Maple. |
Update:
12 hours setting up Thiel's
And not even setting on provided spikes. Testing CD'S...
Songs I've worked on in the studio and co-wrote.
Also Frank Sinatra The Reprise Collection."The Summer Wind" "All Or Nothing At All, "Bill Evans Waltz For Debby
JVCXR0051-2- JVC/Stereo/9376/Riverside Sunday at the Village Vanguard/Featuring Scott La Faro,Diana Krall The Girl In The Other Room/B0001826-12,Hilary Hahn Elgar: Violin Concerto-Vaughan Williams: The Lark/London Symphony Orchestra-Davis B0003026-02
So far I must say I'm very pleased.
Will be continued. |
Hi Tony, I'm sure you're right.Are you using Banna plugs or spade type? I'm using a pair of gold spades |
Hi Unsound, Nice to here from you. Yes I've used spikes on carpet with peg and groove floors & standard hardwood. In older homes like mine It can take time getting the correct levels.Setting up my Eggleston Andra's was a challenge. I've used granite & maple platforms in some projects. But because the SC6's are 50" tall, plus another 1/2" with the spikes, I'll just go through the setup pains.You see my ceilings are just the standard height in my present home. I miss having high ceilings that I had in the past. |
You're right.. Also I see how Mr Thiel developed these Speakers. Which is how it should be. He knew his music and it shows that if it's a great recording, it will sound great. And a bad recording will sound really bad. And you see when I'm in the studio and I come home. I wanna make sure it's right on target.When submitting new songs you only have one shot.And if the recording dosen't have the emotion that makes you wanna hear it again. You're dead in the water... Thanks for your input..I must tell you that setting up these speakers wasn't easy. In matter a fact I almost threw in towel. So I lQQked at the manual and put the toe in just like Mr. Thiel had it. AND Thank God, IT WAS MAGIC.So before I put the spikes on now, thanks for your valuable information. I'm going to stabilize the hardwood floors in that area. (We never stop learning)Until then.. I'm very happy. Don't get me wrong to all Eggleston owners. They're great speakers. I just didn't want to buy two subwoofers. |
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the advice.I have two questions to ask you.Do you know what year the front baffle was changed from using Concrete to the other baffle material? And was there any other improvements made on the CS6's between 1997-2003?
This is in regards to the Stereophile Reviews 1998 & 2003. |
Steve and Tony I finally got the right placement of the Thiel's. 9' feet to center. They do sound better in my room toed in a tadd. Still not on spikes yet. I'm thinking of placing a 1/4" of granite 17" X 23" first, then installing the spikes.The hardwood floors are beautiful but a pain to get the right levels. They do sound incredible. |
Boonetrc
Nice to meet you. I wish I would of found out sooner about the CS 6. Enjoy your new CS 1.6s. |
9/19/2012 Correction regarding adding two subwoofers.
I moved the Thiel's 1" to the back walls and that did
the trick. We never stop learning. |
Great choice on your speakers. Are you using the spikes with them? Have to tell you that I really enjoy mine.Also I'm close to Chicago. |
