I used to listen to C2. I think 3.7 is definitely superior to C2. I think 3.7 is comparable to any speakers below 20K. But I have never heard C4. Can you please share your impression about it? Thanks.
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Audiofeil is correct, I am a Dynaudio dealer, and Sapphire owner, but since I was not at the time trying to sell the OP anything, simply offering information which as others pointed out IS relevant to the OPs question I did not see the reason to add some kind of disclosure statement.
Additionally, anyone who clicks on my username will see that I am a dealer of both Dynaudio AND Thiel.
I most certainly was not trying to hid the fact that I am a dealer, I was just trying to offer useful insight based on my experience as a dealer to the OP.
BUT, since the OP was so kind as to point out the fact that I AM a Dynaudio dealer, pelase let me know if any of you need anything.
Preference is greatly dependant upon price point. Both Thiel and Dynaudio are great companies who produce very nice products.
The Dynaudio Excite X-12 @ $1200 retail is a great speaker.
Thiel's SCS-4 @ $2K is very hard to beat.
I have owned systems in which I altered the Thiel CD-2.4 and Dynaudio Contour S3.4 and the speaker I enjoyed more depended upon the electronics upstream.
To give a general rule of thumb though when comparing the two the Dynaudio house sound is more romantic and makes everything sound good. Thiel's generally have a more detailed presentation and give you EXACTLY what is on the cd. Thiel speakers also excel at low frequency extension in their floorstanding models.
So the direct answer to your question is that my personal preference is dependant upon price.
"To give a general rule of thumb though when comparing the two the Dynaudio house sound is more romantic and makes everything sound good. Thiel's generally have a more detailed presentation and give you EXACTLY what is on the cd. Thiel speakers also excel at low frequency extension in their floorstanding models"
IMO, I really have to disgaree with that totally,Ive never heard anyone call Dynaudio "romantic" or forgiving to a recording especially a dealer of Dyns.Ive heard the Theils and would swap that comparision 180 degrees.
Certainly each room and each system will be different. I was speaking about my experience as a dealer with the lines as a whole using the other associated equipment which I use.
The higher end Dynaudio speakers such as the Confidence and up are very dependent upon the associated equipment.
In my opinion both Dynaudio and Thiel can be very involving when paired with the right associated gear.
Agreed that nothing beats an audition - consult your local dealer!
I really don't understand how you can compare C4 to Thiel 3.7 when you have not auditioned. You are going to give your friend a comparison for purpose of making a purchase based on what strangers are telling you? You stated that you have listened to Evidence and temptation and like the Thiel better. Evidence and Temptation are arguably better than the C4 so why not give your friend the comparison on based on this experience? Better yet just tell your friend to go listen to the C4 and make his own decision.
OK, it's 09/18/2011 but...I auditioned BOTH of these products. The C4 is in a different spectrum than the 3.7. Yes, the 3.7 is good (I like the 3.7) but it is not a full size imaging speaker, doesn't go nearly as low, has no SLAM to music that calls for it, and the basic sonic signature isn't as life like and blended in texture as the C4.
If I added a sub to the 3.7, the overall price exceeds the C4, and ISTILL don't get slam when needed, the transparent texture of the C4, or the tightly integradted bass and life size sound stage. So, the C4 remaind superior overall. But, the 3.7 is killer at low SPL's and in the price range it lives in "as is" if some bass extension and image size is not important.
If someone took my Vandersteen Quatro signature woods away and said get another speaker at 10K or so, I'd head to the 3.7. But, If I COMPARED the 3.7 and the C4, I'll head to the C4.
The Vandersteen Quatro wood and the 3.7 is a tough call for most people. It could go either way and I'd understand either direction 100%. But not the C4 compared to EITHER the woods or the 3.7. The C4 wins hands down (got some BIG bucks, though?).
As far as driving the speakers, SS high curreny amps are pretty common now-a-days. So unless you listen crazy loud, I don't see that the comment about driving ANY of these speakers to be a "modern" SS issue. Sonic texture differences in amps when combined with speaker cables and the speakers? Sure. To each theeir own on that, but driving the speaker? No problem.