+1 Listening99, well stated and I totally agree.
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Many audiophiles refuse to take the time to really understand how what they buy works thus they are easy to fool with brand names fancy finish forum posts. Many are just going to buy a name brand that's approved by the audiophile press. Face it the press does not know how it will sound in your system or room or how well it will last. It's the audiophile's own fault for not educating themselves enough to understand the basics. I can look at a speaker and tell what its made from and what will drive it I can tell if the overall design is flawed without a listen. The gear tornados easy to get off just buy a good pair of horns and get back to buying music not cables etc.
The problem is, speaker designers tried to go as close as possible to live music sound before mid 60x. After that they started to create virtual sound that should impress audiophiles and push them to by their product.
There are a number of factor that started influenced from mid 60x:
1. Rock music popularity. Since The Beatles, rock music sound is 100% artificial, full of effects and sound transformations created by balance engineers and producers.
2. Transistor amplifiers become popular and affordable. This leaded to popularity of small low sensitivity speakers with nasty dynamic compression.
Last 4 decades POP electronic music became more and more popular. 20 years ago majority of audiophiles listened mostly jazz and classical music. Today a big part of audiophiles listen POP music (sadly they could’t understand that this music recorded for boom-boxes).
As results speaker producers have to adjust to the market.
There are typical characteristic of modern main stream Hi-End speakers:
1. Not natural tone. Producers don’t care about it at all!
2. Low sensitivity with nasty dynamic compression. Small boxes and small and heavy-cone bass drivers.
3. Emphasized high frequencies. Scratchy sounding tweeters made from modern ultra hard and light material . This kind of sound doesn’t exist in live music.
4. Ultra deep bass with a lot of compression and bad definition. Bass slam that doesn’t exist in live music.
5. Flat, boring, synthetic mid-range without real resolution, miro-dynamics and dynamic. No good mid-range - no music.
Yes. There are a lot of speakers producers today and there are a few exceptions from this rules. But most of companies (are pushed by marketing, audio dealers and reviewers) confess this modern Hi-End mainstream sound.
I changed 4 pair of speakers from 1998 to 2001. The last speakers were Spendor 2/3 - a really musical speakers great for classical music. But in 2005 I bought a vintage pair of Altec 604E made in 60x. Since that time I haven’t changed my speakers.
Maybe I’m not I typical audiophile. But it is fact of my audiophile experience.
First off I have always been frustrated at my attempts to be able to produce high fidelity music because it is impossible.
Every venue has different modes of amplification and sound reproduction as well as acoustics. Unless you have Jimmy Buffett playing in your living room the concept of live music is a unicorn more ore less.
I look at speaker choice as just that a personal choice. Such as wine, reds vs whites and which winery or vintage you prefer.
I still love listening to vinyl on my 30 yo Klipsch Heresy III speakers.
Due to a hot water leak which took out my Thiel CS6 speakers on a different vinyl system the insurance company will be supplying me with Bowers and Wilkins 800 or 802 D3 speakers
it will be an interesting comparison
By the way I prefer Jeeps over Audis