If it's not directional then how did it get from the dam to my house?
Epic logic fail George. As usual.
Epic logic fail George. As usual.
The "Snake Oil" Trope
Thank you OP for starting a discussion on how inaccurate misleading and harmful it is to use loaded terms like snake oil. Far better to stick to the subject and deal with things in a more forthright manner. Unfortunately, look what we got instead: Nonsense: "since you claim nobody is fibbing" (which you never did). More nonsense: Quantum Tunneling, voltrabbits, audiophoolery, chest-pounding. And of course: Being the pathetic layman I was always meant to be, So we did get that delicious little slice of reality. Not a total loss after all. |
You will probably pick up on this guakas, but it helps to realize some here never will bother to try and understand what you are saying. They already have their canned arguments ready to go and roll them out no matter what. So case in point you go to the trouble of explaining Quantum Tunneling is a process used by Synergistic Research, this is ignored in order to drone on never learning a thing. It is exactly as if you had said Windows is software only to be presented with the totally irrelevant argument that no a window is a hole in a wall filled with panes of glass. This happens all the time here with people talking past each other one never bothering to listen to the other. Then there is the incessant bickering about minutia like voltage isn’t sent current blah blah yada yada. Every dodge under the sun is pulled out all to thwart any progress in understanding ever being made. Quantum Tunneling, whatever is really going on, involves using a Tesla coil to zap extreme high voltage on the order of millions of volts through wire, a process that does seem to produce permanent changes. Don’t know why this should be so controversial, it is fundamentally no different than cryogenic treatment. I know at least one other person with a Tesla coil doing stuff like this. Getting back to the subject at hand, whatever it does and however it works it clearly is not snake oil. It is just something certain people have a hard time understanding. Also probably something they have a hard time hearing. If they would even be willing to try. Uh oh. Doesn’t narrow it down much now does it? ;) |
The logic is unassailable. See if you can follow it. The choice of dielectric has a big effect on sound. Why? Because no dielectric is perfect. What does that mean? The perfect dielectric would neither absorb nor release any electrical energy. None of them are perfect. They all are energized to some extent by the electric field around the signal. Then after the signal peak passes some of this energy is released back into the wire. This results in audible smearing. Okay, so one solid fact everyone should know. Next one, that logically follows from the first, every dielectric holds some amount of charge. We don't want this, it isn't perfect, but it does. The amount varies with some being better than others. They all do this to some degree however, or else otherwise they would be perfect, see? Now imagine a brand new cable. Signal comes along, charges the dielectric, bleeds back in smearing the signal. Bleeds back in at different rates. Starts out fast but then falls off as the charge dissipates. Just like everything else you ever seen your whole life. Think of a rock or piece of metal. Hit it with a blow torch it gets hot. Take away the torch, at first it is real hot but then cools off real fast at first, but then stays fairly warm for quite some time after that. Now imagine the rock was cold to begin with. More heat would go to warming the inside of the rock, at least at first. After a while you keep hitting it with the torch, taking it away, hitting it again, eventually the rock reaches thermal equilibrium. From that point on the radiation you feel on the outside becomes a lot more stable and consistent. Same thing happens with the dielectric. Takes a while but eventually it becomes electrically saturated and then performs much more consistently. It is not so terribly hard to understand now, is it? |
I won’t. Please read the discussions on learning to listen for new characteristics. Your inability to hear at all what others do easily is not evidence of us having mass delusion. It is evidence of your having a great big glaring gap in your listening skills. The discussions didn’t get far. Most who can’t hear are not only not interested in learning but worse, actively working to prevent others making progress. Please either learn to listen, or at least go and start your own discussions on your superior head firmly in sand approach to audio. Music is subjective. Sound is objective. We can measure sound but not music. Actually we don’t even know how to measure sound. What we can measure pretty well is pressure waves in air. That is what decibels are by the way. Pressure waves. Not sound. The difference is sound is not a physical phenomena. We talk as if it is but clearly it is not. Sound is an experience. I said it before, and it didn’t even come from me it came from Watts. A lot of puzzling paradoxes make sense once you see the world and the words for what they are. When a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound? No. It vibrates air. That is all. You can use a microphone to record the vibrations. You can use a stereo to reproduce the vibrations. All you have done is moved the vibrations around. The vibrations only become sound when heard by an organism. Minus the organism it is all just atmospheric pressure waves. You by virtue of being this special organism evoke these qualities of sound and music out of an otherwise sterile lifeless universe. Don’t ever short change the human being. |
I just had an involuntary shudder of horror as I realized the full import of the coat hanger comment- he's using wire coat hangers! https://youtu.be/VKcAYMb5uk4?t=8 |
Hey look, I assume nothing. You literally said yourself you can’t hear. Frankly, I’m being generous. I heard no difference Your words not mine. Which is fine. I have said many, many times I believe people when they say they can’t hear a difference. I believe you. Where I have to say "not fine" though is when you pull your hypocritical "attitude" attack! I hope you guys are being paid handsomely by the cable manufacturers for all the hard work ya’all put into trying to sell this stuff to us. This is NOT fine! YOU said YOU can’t hear. All I said is I believe you. I never accused you of being a paid shill. I never said you are faking it. I never tried to sell you anything, nor has anyone else. Also never made any attacks disparaging you personally. Even though, as one might say, there is plenty of material to work with! I think the evidence shows you are the one needs to give the attitude a rest. |
Not so fast. unreceiveddogma insults all of us as shills, saying I hope you guys are being paid handsomely by the cable manufacturers for all the hard work ya’all put into trying to sell this stuff to us. Nobody is selling anything. He doesn't even try to show where we are, just throws his insults out there as something known to be true simply because it gets repeated. There's a word for that. Dogma, I believe it is. unreceiveddogma owes us all an apology. Not just me. Read what he said. "I hope you guys are being paid handsomely". You guys. All of us who hear and understand the value of quality cables, he's calling us all shills. |
We may not have a precise definition of Snake Oil, but as one Supreme Court justice said, "I know it when I see it." https://youtu.be/hlOhlY7EoEU?t=17 |
@millercarbon See it. Actual bona fide 100% pure snake oil. Nothing else even comes close. https://youtu.be/eA1FBghmr_A?t=47 |
Once again https://youtu.be/5FELdBsixGg?t=111 |
More likely you just never noticed. The two most common fuse locations are near invisible or even impossible to see. Near invisible: look real close at the IEC connector socket. Either above or below will be a very small rectangle with writing it typically requires a flashlight to read. These have a tiny little tab or slot you can pry open with a small screwdriver. These all use the small size fuse. If you don't see that then the fuse will be inside. Remove the cover, look near where AC power comes in. It will be there. At least one. Take it to the bank. Cash the check. Spend the money. |