The shocking truth about speakers


The problem we have in the hifi community is that nobody knows how close we are to achieving perfect sound. This is the shocking truth that is in stark contrast to the belief that modern speakers are state of the art. 

The reason we are in this mess is because speaker design is based on two methods. One is listening and the other is measurements. Listening doesnt work because nobody has perfect hearing and in fact some are even completely tone deaf. Measurements also dont work because we only have the technology to measure some but not all of what needs to be measured. 

As a result, the speakers on the market could actually be horribly wrong if we could compare them to the perfect speaker if it existed. 

We cannot assume that we are close to perfection. Theres no evidence. 

The fact that speakers all sound vastly different indicates that nobody has the faintest idea what we are trying to achieve. 

The shocking truth about the speaker industry is that there is a lot of information that is contained within your favorite music tracks that you are being denied the ability to enjoy all because speaker design is wrong. It is a terrible injustice that needs to be exposed. 
kenjit

Showing 18 responses by dill

Here we go again. The continuing saga of a one person army, totally obsessed with the horrible speaker industry and claiming that there is a "we". It is only you kenjit, all the rest of us are enjoying our systems. Now, what is your system again? And, explain to us why, your theories are not practical for any normal household application.
" I am assuming that most audiophiles want the best possible sound from their speakers."

You do know what happens when you make "assumptions"? Play close attention to the first 3 letters.
" The perfect standard is whatever is on the cd."

Now that is perfectly ridiculous. Your arguments seem to get weaker and weaker over time, maybe a long sabbatical will be good idea, don't you think? 
Just got this from kenjit via AudiogoN message system. Evidently he doesn't agree with my ideas and I can't find a reason to care about what he says. Is that wrong? BTW: There is no foam in the room.

kenfit wrote to me: "Your hifi system is a joke. Those white tiny blocks of foam in the corner of your room do nothing. You are clueless about high quality sound. Your system is BAD. Very bad. It needs to be fixed. Your speakers need to be custom tuned. You need new speakers. That are not wooden. That are not boxes. Your system is really really wrong."

" I think my speakers sound great. Pretty sure that, for me, that’s all that counts"
Absolutely!    👍
" How wrong you are dave_b. I don't need live recordings whatsoever because my marvelous hearing can tell you whats right and wrong with your speakers that most audiophiles would be oblivious to"

kenjit again providing no useful incite or information. Maybe that's the job of "super audiophiles such as" himself.
You said yesterday: "This attitude is a disservice to the true audiophile comunity of super audiophiles such as myself"

First, your spelling is off and second, it seems now you are a super audiofool! Congratulations, you deserve it!!!
He ain’t got nothing but flapping gums facten. Pitiful really ...    🥜
kenjit uttered: "There are no opinions. Only facts. There is only one perfect speaker. Obviously it doesn't exist in reality but only in theory."

If a perfect speaker doesn't exist in reality, it doesn't exist. Theory is really only an opinion. In 100 years if the perfect speakers are made and look very different than we see and measure them today, would the measurements of those speakers be perfect speakers too? Since nothing is perfect, nothing will ever be perfect. 
kenjit coughed up: "All audiophiles know and claim that a Magico costing tens of thousands of bucks is better than the b&w 607 which costs a few hundred bucks."

All of them? Really, have you asked them all? Your generalization of just about everything is comical. Stop making silly statements and get out of mom's basement ...
" What is a Kenjit?"
he or she or a ? is a self absorbed, self proclaimed master of all things speaker, yet provides no confirmed data, no info on anything that has been made, reviewed or recognized by anyone but kenjit. A self proclaimed person or entity destined to spew silly theories based on nothing. Rule #1, do not listen to kenjit, seek guidance elsewhere.
" A kenjit is a connoisseur of perfect sound quality."

If that's the case, maybe you need to start your own forum, you know the perfect one. That would be perfectly fine, you might attract other perfect people and you can have a perfectly good time. Now, don't you think that is a perfect idea?
BTW: Perfect people don't talk about themselves in the third person.
The legend in his own mind said: "But I argue in favor of custom tuning to each persons ears. Most other speaker designers do not. That is a big difference."

It really isn't, just you think so ....
So, Mr, Super File, you say an equalizer is needed to custom adjust a speaker to one's ears?
So, Mr. Super Audiophile, all of us non super audiophiles just need to get an equalizer or tone controls?
" Its no different from going to a live concert and trying to find the best seat for YOUR ears."

So, one should walk the venue, decide what sound best to you and then ask the person sitting in the seat to move so you can sit there?
Wow really, should I throw away all my live recordings and albums? I guess they are not music.