The Science of Cables

ieales"Not 1 in 1000 has any technical expertise whatsoever or been within 100 miles of recording studio. You're all talking out the side of your neck!!!"

In truth, reality, and actuality there are many users, contributors, and posters to this forum who have extensive, detailed, hands on experience, education, and qualifications so just because you wired studios does not render or result in the superiority of your beliefs, opinions, or proclamations.

bo1972 "They use cheap parts which we replace by superior ones"
You select, install, and promote cheap parts also that you try and persuade and convince others that they are "superior" but they are not they are only different you do this to promote you're flawed, incomplete, faulty "Tru-Fi" concept, premise, and protocol that is incomplete especially because you overlook ICSS distortion and use improper, incomplete, and poorly executed cables in your Music Reproduction Systems.

Also when you modify, customize, or alter an electronic component with different parts you run the risk of fire, electrocution, and an invalidated warrantee especially when those parts are selected, chosen, and installed by someone who lacks proper training and education and your insurance company will reject and deny, any claim arising as a result, consequence, or outcome of any such modification

Audioquest is not a bad, inferior, or incompetent cable but it is not an exceptional, high performance, high end cable either. For proof of this simple, basic, verifiable fact just take a look at how many different cables this company designs, manufactures, and distributes they make dozens of models what they are doing is making cables of different "flavors" because none of them are truly neutral, accurate, and faithful. This allows every user, dealer, audiophile to proclaim for himself that one or more of them are the "best" when in fact each of them has they're own shortcomings, failings, and compromises because the company does not know how to make a truly accurate cable. This will fool some people with some regularity and it appears there is a user hear who is included in that group however I will not mention his name or he will have my post deleted for his own benefit, satisfaction, and purpose as he has done with complete immunity for the last few days.

geoffkait"Can we please have a little consensus here? What’s the hold up?"

I am pleased to respond but I ask you’re indulgence for my response. I have been threatened within the Audiogon messaging system (I have reported this to the Audiogon authorities) and this person has also had almost all of my recent posts deleted with immunity so I must be cautious in how I "frame" my response to this fair, legitimate, and thoughtful question.

There are certain people who believe that they have invented, devised, and implemented a method, technique, and protocol for specifying, designing, and building Music Reproduction Systems. They believe that this "technique" that they give a impressive sounding name two is infallible, unequalled, and beyond reproach. They then state that a specific cable or type of cable or few select manufacturers of cable, are the only one’s capable of valid, verified, authentic high end performance because of special "properties" that they have identified and only this person knows how this is done.

But most users, audiophiles, and dealers know that not only audio but most things in life are not that simple, basic, and certain so they also know that there is no one cable or amplifier or speaker or anything else that is guaranteed and assured to invariably deliver the "best" result because of course there is no "best" even though this person may claim that there is. so there can be no concensus.

I wish I could provide more specific detail but the rules of this forum and my personal safety forbid it.  

bo1972 "They use cheap parts which we replace by superior ones."

You replace parts that have been carefully selected, evaluated, and tested with different also cheap parts as a way to convince those who do not know better that you’re "Tru-Fi" approach is superior and valid and that you are qualified, expert, and capable of choosing parts which actual degreed engineers have personally certified as superior! You tell us that we "don’t know F. about high end audio" when you are unwilling to understand, accept, and accommodate the problems of ICSS distortion which reveal that you’re "Tru-Fi" approach is unscientific, incomplete, and tragically flawed, defective, and unproven.

bo1972"When you just take a look at how most audio products sound and what they can reveal, most are just a joke. This has nothing to do with a personal taste or even philosophy. Most people have difficulties to face the truth."

Actually the person with perhaps the greatest problem, challenge, and difficulties in facing the truth is bo himself, who's entire premise, basis, and theory is that He alone has access to the truth via "Tru-Fi" and the rest "have difficulties" as he claims here I know the truth about the "tests" that bo promotes and conducts and I know the truth about his claims, pronouncements, and "facts" and I will tell you to listen for yourself do not let this guy's deception convince you that you can't handle the truth or that most components sold for Music Reproduction Systems are junk.

dave_b"Teo and Bo sound a bit off...as in slightly psychotic maybe?"

I am a former customer of Bo's and can tell you that he has ego, identity, and intelligence issues he is full of conviction that He and He alone can specify, design, and assemble a true "Tru-Fi" high end Music Reproduction System but when showed that he had overlooked ICSS distortion he flew in to a fit of nearly blind rage and drifted into another state that was ugly, threatening, and violent I would never stop into his shop again but he is worthy of our pity he is upset, disturbed, and in need of serious help as is evident from his rambling, incoherent, senseless posts he is probably a schizophrenic.

bo1972"Clearthink wanted to copy our ideas, has never been a client from us. He thinks and believes that he can reach the same by trial&error. At the end it is all about facts."

As Americans would say "You lie like a rug" I am a former customer of yours. Since you claim to know that I never purchased from you, which is a lie, then you must know my real name. Post it here I give you permission but of course you won’t because you can’t because you lie. I revealed to you the oustanding, fatal, tragic flaw in your "Tru-Fi" scheme was it’s failure, inability, and flaw in not being able to accomodate, account, and correct for ICSS and when I showed this to you you flew into a fit of violent rage because you obviously have issues with control as fully demonstrated, revealed, and shown in this forum.

So as you say "Bo"  "You see that he truth is always different" than the lies, deception and fraud you promote, perpetrate, and promulgate here!