Frank,
I just checked out Chris Connor and she reminded me so much of Peggy Lee and then I read that Chris always cited Peggy as being such an inspiration to her. Wonderful voice.
What I've noticed a lot is the surreal quality there now is to percussion, be it with stick, brush, hand and the drum, box, or instrument used to receive the blow or strike. I swear it seems like I can tell if an opening is facing or turned away from the mike and subtle movements of the instrument or positioning and changes with hand placements. It seems to be consistent with the room echo and decay manner that accompany it. Talk about "seeing into" a performance.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I wish I was local as well. This would be so much easier and from what I've read, you've got quite the system. 👍
All the best,
Nonoise |
Hey Frank,
Even though I'm content to stay with my PADIS fuses, the one thing I'd like to second is the added realism that results when better fuses are used. Your description of the flamingo performance gaining additional doses of realism is pretty much how I'd describe what I'm hearing with my fuses.
This added realism is not to be discounted as only a minor improvement. No cable swap or component upgrade takes this route to sonic bliss.
Those improvements happen after the fuse does it work whereas the fuse does it right from the beginning and the improvements are simply magnified right on down the line with each component passing on it's rewards to the next in the chain.
That tired old adage of throwing open the window on a performance certainly applies here. The gains wrought by a fuse go to great lengths to make music more intoxicating, as it were. Like I've stated on other threads, audiophiles move too quickly on to other gear when all they may need is to simply try out that damn fuse.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I found it interesting that in one of the reviews for the Bussman ceramic fuses, the user stated it works better than the one it replaced but how could he get excited about it since it's just a fuse?
There's some cognitive dissonance going on when something better is used and performance is improved and the user just flat out dismisses it because it's not what he "knows" to be so.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@jay23,
I kind of agree with your feelings about the last sale that SR had but if one followed the threads here, it was highly probable that SR was coming out with a new fuse, hence the discount. And, that is how SR has done it for the last few versions: discount and then, new product. Some who jumped on it needed the discount and most likely knew it beforehand. With the SR Black fuses, they'll still enjoy the benefits.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@gbmcleod
The trials and tribulations, the slings and arrows, the ups and downs.
What you've described is textbook sleuthing in the audio maze that can be both frustrating and rewarding, with the latter the ends that justify the means. No one said it would be easy but once you've gotten there, it's worth that extra effort. 👍
All the best,
Nonoise |
@ozzy
My experience tells me that the source showed the biggest benefits. The amp was improved as well but if wouldn't be fair to say it came in second. 😀 Sum of all the parts, and all.
All the best,
Nonoise |
You're new at this, aren't you? It's not science. It's just better manufacturing. Go back and read up on the other threads lest we rehash the obvious. Doing that gives rise to the same old trite and tiresome arguments that have already been laid to rest.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@pbnaudio ,
No, that was not directed at you. I'd never do that to you. That was for the post from @drjoed. Your post came in while I composed my retort to him. Sorry about the confusion.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@dlcockrum ,
Hey there. I guess it's just the way the other poster came on with his very first (or was it second) post that screamed "troll" whereas with Peter, I didn't take it as an insult. I just read past his post without a second thought.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I'm always amazed at what I don't know and appreciate what others do.
It puts perspective in a new perspective. 😁 |
@jafreeman , I experienced a similar result with my fuses: having to turn the volume down. The pressure seemed to be too much of a good thing. One thing I hope you avoid (which I didn't) is the questioning of your state of mind.
As to your thoughts on maybe returning to 'normal' levels after a time, that was my experience. About a week ago I found myself turning the volume back up to where I used to have it on most recordings. It's been a few months since I swapped fuses so that may give you an idea of how long it may take. YMMV.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@jkuc - Padis fuses have a reputation of bright sounding. Is the Blue as "bright " as Padis? Personally, I don't like bright sounding systems, not natural, kind of sterile. I've only tried two types of fuses-the HiFi Tuning Silver Star and the PADIS and to my ears, the PADIS are not at all bright sounding. They sound very even handed to my ears. The HiFi fuses had an emphasis on the leading edge, giving them a lively presentation, but at the expense with a slight lessening of everything else. If I hadn't tried the PADIS, I'd be happy with the HiFi fuses. For about $30, the PADIS are at least worth a try. All the best, Nonoise |
As I pointed out on (I think) a different post, there are 3 levels of fuses out there with the first two for commercial use. The 1st level is the cheap, standard fuse that varies more than it should concerning it's rating and the next level up are the boutique fuses which melt exactly when they should.
If you're device is drawing more current than what it should, maybe you need to take a long, hard look at your component and find out why it's doing what it shouldn't be doing.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@almarg , yes, it was a rep from The Cable Co. who told me he researched as best he could how and where fuses are made and told me there are basically three types or grades of fuses and the applications used for each.
He also went on to say that the lowest grade of fuses can vary in performance despite the specs and the next two levels adhere better to the specs. The mid level fuses, which is what the boutique audio fuses are based on, have been around a long time for use in other, more critical applications.
One would think that since this has been known for awhile, the more knowledgeable folk around here who are more versed in this would have said something sooner. Something like, "all those fuses are are rebranded, higher quality fuses that have been used in ...." and the conversation wouldn't have been so heated.
In my simple googling of high rupturing fuses and their uses, there are plenty of sites explaining them by highly degreed engineers so there is no mystery to these boutique fuses other than why they charge so much but that is another matter.
Hearsay, yes. But I'm of a mind after researching what I could that it all makes sense without any need to strain credulity. That, and what my ears tell me. As for my last paragraph, there was a bit of snark in it. Not all the equipment should be considered faulty or poorly designed but who's to say that some of it isn't? We only have their word to go on, like mine and others who do hear a difference. The statement I made was to make people think before decrying aftermarket fuses.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I've always loved that skit.
Contrarian. The automatic naysaying. Doing it on their free time.
Sounds about right.
All the best,
Nonoise |
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Would you take seriously someone who told you that with a new wiring loom (or whatever) the fuel consumption of your car would suddenly be reduced by half? Would you feel a need to even try? Many years ago with the advent of OBD for cars there were tons of problems that all the experts couldn’t figure out. Turns out that the spark plug wires were acting as an emitter and antenna of sorts, messing with the electronics. No one believed it until some enterprising folk came up with better insulated wires and POOF!, the troubles were lessened. Gas mileage didn’t improve by 50% but it did improve. After that and until they became standard on cars, lots of people went out and bought better cables. All the best, Nonoise |
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2017 will go down as the year of the trolls. |
@bossman2112,
My bad.
You're commentary was so over the top that it sounded like mockery.
That, and it's just what the real trolls do here. |
I hear you, and all the others who relate how much an upgrade they are over the other fuses. As tempting as it is though, I've just put an order in on a LG OLED TV since my old plasma has turned into a radiator. I haven't had the need to turn on my wall furnace yet this year.
All the best,Nonoise |
@oregonpapa , don't give them the satisfaction of a reply. If they were in the same room, they'd be high-fiving themselves right now. Their hunger is insatiable and constant. I've been on the receiving end as well and do my level best to ignore them but sometimes you can't let the dumb stuff pass without a comment.
Perservere.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@uberwaltz,
Welcome to the club. I was a firm believer in after market fuses but not of the directional camp. It took about two years for me to simply try the other direction and there was a definite and obvious difference.
I told myself that I didn't care what others felt and would not get involved in a pie fight with the naysayers but, I did. Don't do as I did and simply post and reply to those who appreciate what this is all about. Enjoy.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Well, waddaya know....
Thanks for the link @lak
All the best,
Nonoise |
Congrats ps!
Let what you did be an example to all those who purport to adhere to "scientific" principles. Just try it.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Whatever the number is, you can add Brimar to the list. I'll post a new thread on them next weekend. 😀
(sneak peak:👍)
All the best,
Nonoise |
I saw that iFi AC thingy too and it looks interesting. With their track record on cleaning up jitter they may be onto something.
As for the infrared treatment that Telos does, don't conflate that with the standard work they do for Brimar fuses.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Yes. It's also a general belief with applications that demand better fuses in general: avionics, military, aerospace, medical, etc.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I was going to wait 'till the weekend to talk about the Brimar fuses but from the Telos site, the fuses are subjected to:
- -196ºC cryo process to achieve maximum stress relief of the highest requirement caused by soldering and molecular sequence alloy conductor distribution during production of fuse. Quantum X2 fuse are cryoed twice at -196ºC under precise controlled environment (with a resting period of 12 hours in between).
- The Quantum X2 are all run in using Telos 3rd generation Quantum Burning Technology (QBT) which has a frequency response of 0-100khz. The Quantum X2 fuses are run in with 27V, 0.8A, 70 watts power module continuously at broadband width signals to optimize its fuse conductor. This process enables stability in transmission of power.
This is similar to what they do to the Brimar fuses, which benefit greatly from it. The difference is the Brimars are cryo'd for 72 hours and the Quantum burn is done for 48 hrs. The infrared, I believe, is used on something else. I saw it mentioned on the site previously but couldn't locate in the time needed to write this. All the best, Nonoise |
If it works as advertised, I see a lot of power conditioners going up for sale. But then, my crystal ball has never worked properly. 👎 |
As long as we're on tangents here, be thankful you didn't own a FIAT 128 hatchback like I did. As long as it ran it was a thing of beauty, but it had to be towed or pushed to the mechanic about a dozen times a year. I could work on it blindfolded. I miss that car.
All the best,
Nonoise |
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Yes, @lalitk , let us know how it works out. Using the iFi Purifier on another outlet that shares the line may be the way to go.
All the best,Nonoise |
I have no technical expertise but due to availability, I went from a 1.6A to a 2.0A fuse and nothing untoward happened. It was with a PADIS fuse but I've read where others have gone up more than that with no ill effect.
YMMV and some here will admonish those who do it.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I've tried three different brands (none of them SR) and never had a fuse blow. I even went up from a 1.6A to a 2A and nothing bad happened.
Trust your ears.
All the best,
Nonoise
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@ps I wish I was in Seattle to take you up on your offer and to buy the next round myself. I loved it in Portland back in '89-'90 but I'm down here in L.A., all the time thinking of moving north.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Mad Scientist, from down under, has had their version of a Graphene Contact Enhancer for awhile now and even offered the smallest version for free some time ago. I wonder if it's anything like the one here. All the best, Nonoise |
It’s been my experience that if the fuse is oriented in the wrong direction, the highs will be rolled off or recessed and there will be a phasey quality to the music. That out of phase effect will be evident down in the lower mids and bass. The effect can be so slight so as to impart an unnatural fullness or ripening that at first blush may be appealing.
Reversing the fuse will restore the highs and tighten up the lower mids and bass. It’s always a little different from set up to set up so try it yourself to hear what sounds best.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Wolf, your comments are becoming a pastime for you. 😜 |
As long as we're on a thread about fuses, to those who cringe at the thought of the costs incurred with the better fuses out there, there's Brimar Audio fuses. I've yet to try the SR fuses but have tried HiFi Tuning and PADIS and the Brimar are in another league in terms of neutrality. I can't detect anything amiss, and the cost is very reasonable. All the best, Nonoise |
And I just opened a nice Chianti..... |
Nice try there Wolf. Why would someone want to flavor the sound in a detrimental way?
Conflating neutral sounding aftermarket fuses with the notion that the original fuse were that should only reinforce the flat earth belief system of the naysayers. What I propose is in quite the opposite direction of your square one.
Empirical evidence abounds in the findings of those who've tried various brands until they hit on the right one for their particular system.
All the best,
Nonoise |
And to think I resisted stating the obvious.
Note to self...... |
Your premise is misleading at best, wrong at worse. One can have an excellently designed car and mess it up with low octane gas. Is the car supposed to work some kind of magic to get around the fact that cheap gas is undermine performance?
Think of fuses, power cords, dedicated AC lines and the rest as good old high octane gas, if you can. That excellent piece of gear doesn't work in a vacuum.
All the best,
Nonoise
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Here we go again with the aging fuse routine, and with an added photo!
If what you say is true, there'd be fuses blowing all the time with enough anecdotal accounts here to back it up, but, of course, there isn't, is there?
All the best,
Nonoise
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I feel your pain. I don't use SR fuses but having to buy 4 Brimar fuses for my SACD player hurt as well. 😄
But it was waaay worth it. 👍
All the best,
Nonoise |
In these discussions it's been shown that there are engineers who've tried fuses and though they can't explain why they make an improvement, they accept it. They know more than the naysayers here, make better products than just tinkering with junk at home, read the same manuals, are better educated, and still have the ability to keep an open mind. I think that's what differentiates them from the naysaying, self described experts here.
All the best,
Nonoise
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