The new Schiit Aegir Amplifier now shipping

George always supports manufacturers who devote their resources in product development and consumer marketing with the consumer’s pocketbook in mind (as in savings to the consumer).

This in no way means I don’t support the other end also, eg: as I recommend to "glitz queens" that can afford them, Gryphon Antileon amps if they have the speakers that need them eg: Wilson Alexia ect ect. nothing Schiit makes can drive these successfully.

itsjustme
And i didn’t even come up with a new confusing name for a complementary push-pull design running class A with no crossover distortion :-) What a load of marketing confusion. Why can’t we just say what things are and do? What a load of marketing confusion. Why can’t we just say what things are and do?

+1 yeah, with you there, a "new word" to wow the wow’able.

Cheers George

Just realized that link of the Sumo Nine is no good, try this.
https://elektrotanya.com/PREVIEWS/63463243/23432455/egyeb/sumo_nine-plus_sch.pdf_1.png
Cheers George 

Wasn’t Sumo James Bongiorno??, I loved the sound of the Sumo 9 Class-A, a very innovative circuit multiple rails and floated too, too bad he use an opamp for the input, could have been a cracker amp.
file:///C:/Users/georg/Downloads/hfe_sumo_the_nine_plus_schematic.pdf

Cheers George

I keep forgetting that George does not like Schiit Audio.

You need to get a life and see the forest through the trees, and go see who’s Schiit’s strongest advocate is on Audiogon, you will get a big shock sunshine.
But then you’ve done 107 post and 99% do do with a single Tekton speaker thread so you have no idea of what else goes on.

celander
check out the head-fi link. It’s not a picture but an explanation that’s likely better than a picture.

As I thought the same "basic circuit topology"

Here’s what I envisioned when Marv suggested doing a low-power, “Class A” amp in the Vidar chassis:

• A 20-25W into 8 ohms stereo amp that would also be able to do 80-100W when run mono
• It would use the same basic topology as Vidar
• However, the addition of a Continuity output stage would result in a more linear output
• It would also use as much the same parts as Vidar as possible

"Continuity" output stage, is a "word" used which to me indicates the pnp/npn outputs don’t totally switch off (Class-A), so there’s no cross over distortion, like what happens in a Class-A/B amp when it enters Class-B.
You could say that about the Vidar also up to 5watts, that it’s also a "continuity" output stage up to 5 watts with no crossover distortion, then goes Class-B.
The reference to the Lyr is that it stays in "Class-A" like it does, which is the norm for any phono or headphone amp. But the circuit topology Marv suggested is Vidar.

Cheers George

Just because Aegir looks like Vidar does not mean it is like Vidar.

Look very closely at the components and the pcb layout, if your any kind of tech you will see what I mean, and if you know different, please put a link up that proves me wrong. As I’d love for it to have totally different topology??

Cheers George

celander
George, your second image link appears dead.

Works for me, here they are again.

Vidar https://www.schiit.com/public/upload/general/vidar-internal-1920.jpg

Aegir https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=193139
If you still can’t see it here it is using image hosting.
https://ibb.co/2gfDdK0


Cheers George

I’m not bagging this amp celander, there is a great place for it in the market, using efficient speakers. But let’s not make it the holly grail, it’s not!
Nothing new there celander, it’s what’s been the norm on most good class-A complementary output stage push pull amps.
This "continuity" is just a new word used to make it sound like it’s something new and innovative.
Cheers George

The transformer used is significantly different too.

Of course the transformer will be different, the Aegir has to have far lower rails than the Vidar, my 10 year old knows that!!!

Whatever you want to think, in time it will come out, then you'll understand. 

Cheers George

porscheracer
No, this is a whole different design. It’s more like the Lyr 3 than Vidar.

Sorry, I don’t think so, it is very close to the Vidar, I'd put money on it now seeing both viewing them, as I said probably lower rails and higher bias..

Vidar : https://www.schiit.com/public/upload/general/vidar-internal-1920.jpg

Aegir: https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=193139

Cheers George

mtbrider
Someone who has received this unit has posted internal pictures over on AC.

Can you post the link? What is AC?

Bet this is the Vidar with lower rail volts and higher Class-A bias, maybe that why there's no internal shots of it, like the Vidar has???

Not that it's bad, as there are plenty of speakers that would rather have the Aegir's  20 of Class-A and no B over that.
Than the Vidar's 1-5watts of Class-A and 90w of B. Quad ESL57's come to mind.

Cheers George 

You get what you pay for my friends

And with Schiit it’s all on the inside, as your not paying 8 x more for a glitzy CNC'd chassis with Cadillac like shine, that does absolutely nothing for the sound.
https://c.wallhere.com/photos/f3/93/classic_car_vintage_la_losangeles_purple_headlights_fav20-935531...

Cheers George