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Oops!"In the strictest scientific sense, there is no such thing as music, or sound, or color, or hot or cold".utter nonsense!
Just the opposite. I'll explain by giving the one correct answer to a well-known riddle: when a tree falls in a forest, if there is no one there to hear it then does it make a sound?
The answer is no.
The tree falling vibrates the air. It does not make a sound. For there to be sound requires an organism with hearing. No organism, no sound. Nor heat, nor cold. Nor hardness nor softness. Its not nonsense. Its the truest most sensible thing in this whole thread.
Lot of nice posts here.
Measurements are needed for development, quality control etc. It would be impossible to design and produce equipment based only on auditory results.
Math is philosophy which is applied in measurements. Measurements quantify a set of known errors. Noise is assumed to be random. Depth of human perception have not as far as know been quantified. Thus measurements will tell what is wrong with equipment, not what is right, but is a good starting point.
Digital music formats introduced a new set of errors old systems were not adapted to.
Test signals are usually simple to make the math easy. That obviously does not paint a complete picture. How do you extract deviations in stochastic signals where complex intermods will happen?
Pseudo random noise with a swept -130dB notch source signal measured with a corresponding analyzer rejecting everything but the swept notch?
(I thought about that back in the early 70's but had no way to design and build it.)
How much, or more importantly exactly what, is tolerable to a critical ear?
Why not introduce quantifiable errors abd and guage their perceptability?
A forest is typically filled with life forms both large and small. Even bacteria respond to vibrations. Just because a human isn’t around doesn’t mean it’s not heard. I’d place my money on sound.
This anthropocentric view of what consitutes and supposedly defines reality is the crux of the problem.
Do you also believe that H. sapiens has a monopoly on music making and listening too?