The Future of Audio Amplification


I have recently paired an Audio Research DS225 Class D amplifier with an Audio Research tube preamplifier (SP8 mkii). I cannot believe how wonderful and lifelike my music sounds. The DS225 replaced an Audio Research SD135 Class AB amplifier. Perhaps the SD135 is just not as good as some of the better quality amps that are out there, but it got me thinking that amazingly wonderful sonance can be achieved with a tubed pre and Class D amp. I have a hunch that as more people experience this combination, it will likely catch on and become the future path of many, if not most audiophile systems. It is interesting that Audio Research has been at the forefront of this development.
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Class D is definitely the future of audio. And they will only get better. Heat reeks havoc with amp internals. Class A is not immune to this not to mention draws large amounts of current even at idle.
I have a Class D integrated amp. I compared it to a $10k pre and power amp combo. Power amp is class AB. I also owned this combo. My lowly class D integrated, at one-third the price, humbled that $10k plus amplification. No, I'm not saying I have the best in class D, and no, I'm not saying there isn't better $10k combinations of which I compared. I'm just saying I have proof positive that a modestly priced Class D amp can compete with more expensive class A/AB amplification.
kosst,
Yeah. Look at some of the tube amps that have been recently reviewed with claimed output of 60 to 100 watts per channel and deliver 2 or three watts at best at 10% distortion!!!! And you crap all over class D amps. Give us a break, PLEASE!
Kosst,
My last post wasn't directed at you, but more of a dismissal of class D as being worthless. Not in so many words by some, but I think one can read between the lines.

Looking back on what I said about 10% distortion isn't quite accurate, but some of these tube amps show just a handful of watts being useful up to about 1% distortion and this distortion rises quite rapidly as output goes up. With 10% being a approx. figure getting near these amps rated output. I don't know how you feel, but to me 1% or higher at a handful of watts output doesn't translate into very good performance, at least as far as I'm concerned....
213runnin,
Just look back on this thread and see how many so called audiophiles dismiss class D as the next thing to garbage. I would bet many of them  never had class D amplification in their systems. I've had class A, A/B, and even a class H back years ago. Thee is nothing wrong with Class D. IMO.
Where are some of you guys getting Class D as digital. Class D is not digital.
Kosst,
Honestly, and truly have you ever sat down and listened at length to ANY Class D amp? Specifically one in your own system? Set in the listening position and show me or more specifically tell me you hear the ringing distortion or switching for that matter that you hear in Class D amps. Although it might be harder than you think with your choice of loudspeakers......
Kosst. You have repeated your stand about specifications on distortion, overshoot of square waves, etc,etc. But you have eluded the simple question many of us have asked you, "have you listened at length, (weeks, months) to any viable Class D amp in your own system. I have no problem with class D not being your cup of tea, just you and other nay sayers believing it is junk and should be dismissed. To many well trained ears here have had wonderful experiences with class D, myself included.
Tim
I said in a post that I could not hear switching distortion in my amp and believed that most, if not all, of said switching distortion wasn't audible. Ralph Karsten said to me, and I quote:

"Speak for yourself, Kemo Sabi"
Seems to me, in most of the class D threads I have read, there are more positive reads than naysayers. I'm fine with it if you don't like class D for whatever reasons, just don't tell me it is garbage and has no place in HEA! Reading between the lines, it seems many of the naysayers have NEVER had a class D amp in their systems. I said "many" not all....