Wow never knew about it. Can you post some links for info?
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"Is there something out there under $1000 that really is a giant killer? "
I'm guessing almost anything home made that works. If its elevated, its elevated I would think.
Practically, I'd first work to avoid EM interactions among cables by arranging them carefully to avoid long close parallel runs. I would expect that to effectively address any issues associated with wire location, relative or otherwise.
I do not see why elevating a wire in of itself is necessarily even a good thing. The thing to avoid is EM field interactions among wires and other electrical devices. Elevating alone just to elevate might help but could make things worse as well if not done properly. The best "elevator" to accomplish this would be anything best applied to this end. I would not expect there to be any benefit in paying a premium for some device to do this marketed to "audiophiles" unless perhaps there was some cosmetic or aesthetic advantage involved.
Actually I've recently discovered that some digested substances may increase audible frequency range. I'm planning to launch production of such vials that will be FDA approved and purchased with no RX. There are different formulas for different styles of music you're listening to.
Consult your doctor if you have alergies etc...
Price per weekly dosage vials =$$; monthly dosage etc... Morning, afternoon and evening formulas available. A special order is needed for night formula for night listeners. You can even match proper formula to the system components you have...
Just lovin that audiophile market LOL where sky is the limit!
I've just spent the last week being blow away by the not subtle, totally profound effects of what I consider to be the world's best cable elevator system. Unfortunately, the cable elevator system (CES) is a prototype and I cannot describe it in detail nor mention the manufacturer. Unlike other cable elevators the CES looks at the problem systemically and provides a holistic approach integrating both quantum and gravitational effects. I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds cool. The CES is powered and not surprisingly responds quite well to different power cords. The MSRP is not set, but I expect it will come in under $10k.
All I can say is that this cable elevator did things to my system that took my system's breath away. It is so transparent that when inserted in the system you cannot hear any effects from the CES, but when you take it out the system is unlistenable and I suddently realize what a collection of mismatched crap that I really have. Put it back in the system and it's like the most beautiful woman in the world and her twin system are beckoning me to their bed. It's that good!
I'll write a more formal review as the manufacturer gets closer to his release date and production is about to commence.
My tests of toilet paper rolls vs paper towel roll tubes as cable risers:
The nice part of toilet paper rolls is they are already a useable height.
The dowside is the remnants of toilet paper which will be sticking to the empty roll.
The plus of paper towel rolls is they do NOT have toilet paper stuck to them. The downside is they need to be cut to size for use.
The paper towel rolls are also slightly thicker than toilet paper rolls.
The paper towels are 'quicker' as in quicker picker upper.
The toilet rolls are 'soft' yet strong. And Mr. Whipple loves them.
Currently my risers are toilet paper tubes. toilet paper shreds and all....
Agree with the toilet roll solution, the natural unbleached sounding very open in the midrange, with a natural bottom end.
Seriously though lifting speaker cables off the floor does give a subtle benefit, you can try anything - toilet rolls, kids wooden building blocks etc. No need to spend megabucks.
I have spent the last 8 years doing extensive listening tests on various cable elevator and de-elevator systems. Many friends loved to come over to do blind listening tests.
We noted the effects on directionality, material, material density, elevation pattern and elevation height.
The effects on speaker cables, interconnects and power cords lead to having to buy much longer lengths. For instance my stealth Indra of 1m had to be replaced with a 12m set so I could fit the elevators underneath.
I tried raising the elevators to various heights with significant improvements. A few inches off the ground did produced better lows than leaving cables on the floor, but on raising these cables higher I found much better highs. (my current elevators are 9 feet high).
The 9 foot elevators (best so far) are made from pure 5nines silver and insulated in doped paper and silk with carbon fiber supports. These made for an extra ordinary listen.
I had to buy bigger subs to balance these sparkling and extended highs. But it was for the subs which I found the cable de-elevators a brilliant solution. I was starting to get thinness from the subs but the de-elevation brought tight, plummeting bass, full of overtones and texture. de-elevating the power & sub cables cannot be underestimated.
The 9 foot elevators are prototypes but I am told will be available in time for CES 2013. The de-elevators are available in limited numbers.
Elevating cables higher to improve those highs...... it is so perfectly logical and yet I missed it! Unfortunately my ceiling is only 10ft high. I know this will sound out there to those stuck in their sad little paradigms, but I am going to glue my elevators to the ceiling. If that does not work I will locate my elevators upstairs in my bedroom and thread my cables through. It might not be that convenient during a midnight bathroom visit, but I refuse to allow a minor safety hazards restrict the enjoyment of my systems highs.
I actually had real elevators (albeit on a small scale) built and installed by my electrician and have found that using them with the toilet paper works best. Sometimes when I'm not looking or am at work, my cables like to ride up and down just for fun (those wiley interconnects)!! Make sure to put them on their own 20A circuits because those suckers are power hungry let me just say. And make SURE to remove the emergency phones. My Audioquests though it was a hoot to call when they got "stuck"...yeah RIGHT ;)
I read Otis Elivator Company is planning to get into the cable elevator business.
They are planning to make some exclusive models with remote control cable lifting designs.
They are going straight for the top tier of cable elevating with models from $5,000 each up to $75,000 each.
THe coolest demo was with the remote controlled units flowing up and down to offer the best height ratio for each type of music.
The higher end models have calibration units included to automatically adjust each cable elevator in relation to sound pressure levels and frequencies..
They already have dozens of preorders from the Saud Royal Family.
Elizabeth, put the paper towel rolls in the freezer for 34.5 hours along with a picture of Mikey Fremer and you will notice a HUGE amazing increase of everything that ends in "-ality". I am thinking of marketing this and a set of four risers with this special scientifically proven technology of quantumology should come in at just under $1000.00. The only problem I am currently having is that the Fremer Foto eats all my ice cream in my freezer.
What about us purist who cant even accept tone controls. I cannot argue with fine tuning cable height using the Otis initially, but once you have established your average optimum cable height, surely you move to a fixed design at that height. I also cant help thinking my cats will take a special interest as metres of cable start elevating up and down. Aside from that, 3 questions occur: What is the best power source for an Otis and would you condition the power? What is the resale value for a much loved, slightly used Otis? Is there life beyond Otis...what is the fixed position solution? Pleased to see some are serious about Cable Elevation, unlike those low life cretins earlier in the thread. (btw -- any truth in the rumour ThyssenKrupp are develop a competing product?)
The auditioning of cable elevators and de-elevators in isolation (pardon the pun) is really only half the story.
The effects of elevation on most cables which are not designed to be levitated, tend to have their frequency response altered. There is a formula. mass x height + atomic weight - price = frequency response.
Now to get around this problem cable regulators must be used in conjunction with the elevators/de-elevators to make sure the cables ability to transfer the correct balanced frequency throughout your system is properly optimised. Think of it as "room correction" for elevated cables.
There is only one problem with the regulators and this is their size. To regulate within reasonable tolerance, the regulators must clamp onto the existing cable. But at 6 foot wide and 4 foot high, connection can be tricky. They are also quite heavy, which can lead to elevation collapse.
If you need to ask the price for these audio gems you cannot afford them and you will spend your whole audio life in despair.
If you think cable elevation changed your life wait until you hear cable regulation combined with elevation and de-elevation. Your ears will thank you but your wallet won't.
Wolf, that was me and I tried all manner of string including dental floss (which gave brass instruments too much bite) and it was a cheapskate solution that just does not work. You have to learn to open your mind and open your wallet to be enlightened when it comes to cable elevation. Its a journey that will reward you like no other component upgrade, and I challenge all those disbalievers in the "my new fuse changed my life" camp to prove me wrong.