The CD player is dead.......


I am still waiting for someone to explain why a cd player is superior to storing music on a hard drive and going to a dac. Probably because you all know it's not.

Every cd player has a dac. I'll repeat that. Every cd player has a dac. So if you can store the ones and zeros on a hard drive and use error correction JUST ONCE and then go to a high end dac, isn't that better than relying on a cd player's "on the fly" jitter correction every time you play a song? Not to mention the convenience of having hundreds of albums at your fingertips via an itouch remote.

If cd player sales drop, then will cd sales drop as well, making less music available to rip to a hard drive?
Maybe, but there's the internet to give us all the selection we've been missing. Has anyone been in a Barnes and Noble or Borders lately? The music section has shown shrinkage worse than George Costanza! This is an obvious sign of things to come.....

People still embracing cd players are the "comb over" equivalent of bald men. They're trying to hold on to something that isn't there and they know will ultimately vanish one day.

I say sell your cd players and embrace the future of things to come. Don't do the digital "comb over".
devilboy

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" I simply wanted to know what makes one stick with a cdp"

familiarity and comfort zone.
My music server is my modern remote control jukebox that I always wanted.

I just need to add a Wurlitzer logo, some neon lights and chrome trim.

Happy Days!
The distribution model for CDs has changed drastically and downloading of individual tracks is gaining momentum, but I think there wil always be a demand for music that is packaged and you can see and touch. After all, the internet and downloading has not made books extinct. CDs are still the prime medium for packaged music. Not sure yet what will come next to replace it eventually.
" For these people (who download mp3s), clearly convenience trumps quality"

Not true. The quality of mp3s is often quite good for the types of music that most people listen to even on a good system. I would be challenged to distinguish mp3 from higher resolution formats with most of the pop/rock type songs that I do elect to download. For tehse, it makes me wonder why pay more and suffer greater inconvenience for no reason. They also happen to be most convenient and more usable overall.

Its not the best, but does represent a reasonable compromise between file size and absolute sound quality. There are a lot of benefits both in terms of cost and utility with smaller file sizes when suited.

I would not recommend mp3 for classical music in general but I cannot say that I have even tried it for that so I really have no experience to base a judgement on, though it would not surprise me to hear differences there.

Fact is I have a couple dozen mp3 files I have downloaded and listened to critically and despite the usual variations in recording quality found with any format, I cannot honestly say I have heard a deficiency that I can clearly associate with the format yet, though I know these exist technically. The question is can I hear them? Don't know the answer to that yet.....
CD players and all audio for that matter often sound much better after a couple of martinis.

A much more effective tweak often than power cords, ICs, new amps, etc.

IS there anybody that does not believe we hear differently day to day depending on mood, body chemistry, etc.? If not, listen, down a couple of martinis and listen again and see if you hear the same thing.
I would find the jukebox like convenience features of a music server less valuable I think if I listened only to classical music where compositions are often longer and consist of multiple parts that have to be listened to in sequence compared to most popular music.
For sure music file server devices that are also user friendly will become increasingly prevalent and popular as the technology matures.

So far, you can do it yourself which is less expensive but still significantly complex to do well and in a fail safe manner or buy more expensive integrated solutions that cost more and still may not have all the common user glitches worked out
How long does it take for a cloud based backup service to back up 1Tb worth of files I wonder?

Also, how long to restore 1 Tb of files as well if needed, I wonder? I would think it would take a long time.

If it has to go over wireless G it would take forever I think. A hard wired network connection would be better.

Bottom line is I suspect many might find restoring there files from a remote service on the internet to be a lot harder and time consuming than might be expected.

My solution is two 1.5 Gb+ Seagate USB drives and using the backup software that comes with the drives from Seagate which reliably backs up any new files in target locations using the backup schedule you set up.

I have had other drives/backup software that was not able to accomplish this quickly and reliably and I dumped that pretty quickly.

Bottom line is setting up backups may not always be a slam dunk if you have to set it up from scratch first time.
WHoops, I meant to say I use two 1.5 Tb+ USB drives, not 1.5Gb+. 1.5 Gb would only buy you about 3 CDs or so I believe whereas 1.5Tb should hold 1000X as much or about 3000 CDs.
i listen almost every day and cannot remember the last time i used my cd player. it took me about 8-10 months to rip all my cds to server. i did it several at a time as stanndard procedure prior to listening. 12300 tracks total now and growing.
Now today for example, it was very nice listening to Mozart piano sonatas and then adding the Beethoven Pastoral Symphony while sitting in my chair in my bigger listening room and not having to get up and go into the next room to change things.

I use the VisualMR program on a Windows PDA with a wireless connection to control my Rokus (one on each of two systems on different floors that connect to a shared music server laptop to select songs or entire albums from any room in the house.

Now that is sweet and something I could never have even dreamed of before!
I'm with Petty. I may download a few files along the way but nobody's gonna run me over a cliff if I have any say about it!