the best 'tubey amp - warm,smooth,liquid' ?

LOL..a good bottle of Opus One!!..

Zabiaud..If you are after that warm, lush, very smooth sweet sound then you should consider the tubes rather then the brand of the tube amp itself. There's a company out of China, called Psvane & Shuguang. Their tubes are made like tubes were in the late fifties and early sixties. With heavy filaments and thick envelopes. They are pricey but have a very long life. The tubes are beautifully cased in wood boxes. They are the best built tubes on the market.
Go to the Grant Fidelity website in Canada. They are the North America Distributor and you can buy direct. Again, these tubes have a very classic sound that was common fifty
years ago and are warmer and richer than other tubes of today. Some may find these tubes too warm and laid back and overly lush. but thats what I prefer personally so it all depends how much warmth your after.

Audiofeil..your comment that you need to go to Canada to buy Psvane & Shuguang tubes from Grant Fidelity is completely false. Grant Fidelity ships from three locations and ships worldwide. If your in the States the tubes will ship from their warehouse in Las Vegas. They also ship from their other warehouses in Calgary and China.

Audiofeil..just received an email from Rachel at Grant Fidelity. All Psvane tube orders ship direct from their Hong Kong warehouse to the U.S., Canada and around the world with free Air Mail Shipping.

Audiofeil..my apologies..I stand corrected. "You need not deal with Canada in any way, shape or form?"..whats this?..Buy from America only? How racist!!..I'm certain that your Audio system has separates from Japan and Europe.
Besides, the Trelja website Trelja.net has no phone number listed and has no online order form and no product listings. Its just a blank white page with no descriptions whatsoever. Not very professional for a "premier vendor".

Thanks Trelja for your clarification..I had no idea..no offense..I'm glad Audiofeil mentioned your name since your threads and your commitment to reporting on the shows around the country appears to be outstanding.

By the way Trelja..no offense..but since your a "premier vendor" for Psvane tube's, I assume you have a legitimate licensed retail business with a retail website. Whats the name or your retail business and your retail website address so I don't feel like I'm buying tubes out of someone's home basement or off the back of a pick-up truck..

Okay Atmasphere..so is Joe (Trelja) a Distributor or a Retailer..and again..does he have a business location and a website? Every legit Distributor I'm aware of in New York and California have websites and business locations. I don't like the feeling of doing business with a "Garage Distributor"..Heck..Bud Fried still has his transmission line speaker company going for years in PA. and has a website..Let me know the name of Trelja's website..

Ok..Ok..Audiofeil..I'll answer so I don't hear from your Attorney..your message.."No need to deal with Canada..no way..no how"..is biased racism towards a foreign country..whats the big deal about buying Psvane tubes from Grant Fidelity?..Psvane.com website list only Grant Fidelity as their North American dealer and Grant Fidelity also has a business license in Nevada and has a warehouse located in Las Vegas. Why should I buy from Trelja? He's nowhere to be found on Google as a "premier vendor" for Psvane and has no website to sell from.
Hell, their's DIY Webmaster services online that for several hundred dollars you set up your own website with uploaded pics and get hooked up to a search optimization service with an 800 number and your up and running in 48 hours.

Relax..I'm not dumping at all on Joe. Supporting the US economy? Give me a break. Do you buy only audio components made in the U.S.A.? I doubt it. Everyone of us owns gear made in the States, Asia and Europe. However, I plan on putting together a vintage system in my home this fall and you can be assured that I will buy Psvane tubes from Joe. I am glad Audiofeil brought him to my attention, and after checking him out on Gon, its a no brainer to buy from him due to the loyalty and history that surrounds him and the immense respect given him by Gon members for many years. Appears that he is one remarkable person. Thanks Audiofeil.

ZZzzzzzzzzzz...wake me when its over...

Audiofeil..After an extensive conversation this morning with my Audio friend Richard in Chicago, he will be ordering all Psvane tubes from Grant Fidelity today for his David Berning gear and looks forward to the upgrade!..

Audiofall..lightning round?..boy, do you have child issues. I gave up baby competitions at the age of four and had no further use for my sandbox. If you want to let go of your childhood skeletons and get rid of your sandbox, I would recommend putting it up for sale on Ebay, or better yet, install four outdoor cube speakers on the four posts and list it on Audiogon.