@nevada_matt
anmd a very good idea at that...
Battery/Solar is good
BUT is a Sine Wave the best way to send power... ;)
Thanks - Mark
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@dogberry
I have been working in the Industry for 54 years
This took place in 2010 and 2011 -
I made my mistakes but have worked very hard to regain my footing.
I lead the Dev Team at Underwood HiFi - my work there this last year and preceding 8 years speaks for itself. Same for the other people and products I work for.
I can never take back what happened - and I live with that every day. I was surely guilty and those that know me know what this has meant to my life.
Best way forward it to serve the Community well which I do every day. Same here as well as in other places
Your Holiday Cheer is understood - and I still wish you a great holiday and happy New Year
Mark
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@Ozzy
Excellent review
This is we offer a 30 day return privilege -
Every system offers a new opportunity
Thanks again
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My own experiences re Puron
My friend from Thailand, Wuti L introduced me to Sudkee, a dear friend of his. A few weeks later I had my first Puron sample.
I have used Puron in the same Duplex that has the Mains for my Core Power 1000. I’ve also used two Purons – in that same Duplex, as well as Position One on the CPT 1K.
Puron is NOT a Magnetically Derived Device. Puron deals mainly with “timing” which results in a vastly improved noise floor. Many of you have noticed this. I know I have
The results in my two systems are basically an improved retrieval of information. Both the Leading Edge and Decay are improved. I use the same 10 or so tracks when developing the LSA gear, new Core Power or (now), Next Gen Emerald Physics.
A Track that comes to mind is the nicely bouncy beat from Manu Katche – Keep on Trippin. I also like Ensemble Cello pieces (too many to name) as the Attack and Decay are easy to recognize and articulate in my systems.
Puron is a very good product. There is no web site as yet, but there will be one next week. Puron is an improvement in most systems – but perhaps, not all. I was going to put Puron in our web site that has our Vanguard Loudspeakers (www.xsa-labs.com) but I decided instead to have a site dedicated to Puron and another new product from Swiss Digital called Fuse Box – coming soon. For now, those that want to send a note – [email protected]
Just closing by saying thanks to those that have supported me and the products I’m involved in. Those not interested – I understand.
Happy Holidays
Mark
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@clearthinker
Appreciate your question.
Puron is not my product and while I have had a good explanation from the inventor and owner of the company – Sudkee, he made me promise that I would not post about the tech.
I realize that this does nothing to satisfy your question, but I also understand why Sudkee does not want me revealing bits of the tech.
With Core Power I can explain why DC Snubbing makes almost any system work and sound better. DC is a BIG issue on the AC Mains everywhere in the world. Puron seems to work best by improving the Noise Floor with its tech
I had a very nice guy call me the other day from Las Vegas. Troy B had an issue with his subwoofers in a very good/high-end system. Puron was plugged in and Noise was vanished. Maybe Troy will post. Very nice guy BTW.
With all “tweaks” as called out here and in other places, one must try them in their own systems. Nothing else matters, nothing else is important. Your system is where it’s at.
Puron is sold out right now, but I started a list on Friday for those interested. Puron does come with a 30-day Money Back/ No Questions Asked Guarantee. You are charged only when we ship it. Expecting more shortly.
I have yet to have a return – although Ozzy was not thrilled with Puron is his system, but now he’s working with Puron on his video rig. We’ll see.
I am the guy selling them as well as the new Swiss Digital Fuse Box which is ready to start shipping next week. This is also some pretty cool tech and in this case I can talk about the tech and how this nicely made product replaces your “fuse” with a copper slug and a micro-processor controlled protection system. I’m sure this product will be something special. Just pure science with some nice back-up information to share.
Welcome to contact me at [email protected] or (818) 584-6870
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Wow, that's one very nice web site
Thanks
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@dogberry
Appreciate your reply.
My advice to those that are interested is simply this – buy and try. Decide for yourself.
As Greg Voth from Stereotimes and others have mentioned – this is an easy A/B (blind or sighted). Plug in – LISTEN and then Un-Plug and Listen. Don’t listen to me or anyone else – Listen to YOUR System.
I remember when I was struggling so much with Deep Core 1800. When it was finally finished we published several AP and Digitasl Scope Captures of Mains itself – AND THEN – Mains with Deep Core --- 4 volts on the line went down to 30mV. Proof is STILL in the listening and there are 100’s of Deep Core’s out there. Popular product.
I will ask Sudkee again, but I’m pretty sure he won’t want to provide a Road Map for others. Patent it you say – that takes some time – even under Pending.
Listen and enjoy.
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Hello
I confirmed with Sudkee today that 25 more Puron will be on the way in 7 to 10 days.
I have 9 already spoken for -
If interested – send your name to me at the e-mail below
I hope to have a Dealer Account opened by tomorrow.
All Puron sales are covered by a 30 day No Questions Asked Guarantee.
Send your name to get on the list.
No money exchanges hands until we ship
Thanks
Mark
[email protected]
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@mbmi
Thanks very much for your comment. I have sent this to Sudkee
Trying it in one’s system is the way to go. We do offer a 30 day No Questions Asked Guarantee
Best Holiday Wishes
Mark
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@normb
One Puron will work very well in most systems.
My advice is to plug it in – in the same duplex where your plug strip resides of Power Conditioner
In my case I used two – NOT necessary as one will make a great difference and two can also add further positive results.
Thanks
Mark
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@lowrider57
Yes, this is correct.
Thanks
Mark
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@lalitk
Appreciate your question
With respect to Puron, I’m just the Distributor. Sudkee, the owner came to my attention from a long time friend in Thailand (Wuti L) who was our Distributor for Audio Alchemy there. He told me about the product and introduced me.
I tried the first sample for more than 2 months and was really impressed. I told Sudkee I would be happy to help.
Puron is not based on Magnetics etc. In my two systems at home – and while using it with my Core Power EQUI=CORE 1000 I did notice a lower Noise Floor and improved “information retrieval” – the Attack and Decay of instruments and voices were improved.
I signed up to help here in the US and Canada and I’m introducing friends I’m made while at Audio Alchemy, Genesis Technologies and Core Power to Sudkee.
Sudkee did explain the product to me – I was impressed. Lots of thought went into it. He asked me NOT to say anything about his tech and I will do as I was asked. I’ve made suggestions about “Timing” and Noise Floor, etc. I stand by those comments. I’m not an EE, but I do love the results. Zero returns thus far.
Like many things in Audio… Listening and Evaluating in one’s system is the ultimate test. I hope you’ll try one
Happy Holidays,
Mark
PS – I’m sorry I did not really answer your question.
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@bemused
I understand your curiosity
Perhaps Sudkee will allow me in the future.
I DO understand where he is coming from. He’d like to become a bit more established before sharing his work-product.
For now – I take direction from him. He’s in Thailand and I believe he is reading these threads. At least I think so.
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@jerryg123
The very first line of the review on Stereotimes states the following
“Distributed by Vera-Fi Audio LLC, the Puron Power Conditioner doesn’t require a big lift”
I am the Distributor and Sudkee Chongmankhong is the owner of Puron
@facten
Sudkee does not use the name Vera-Fi – only I do.
I also appear here where Vera-Fi is used – www.xsa-labs.com
Different site, but the name is there on product, etc. as well as Credit Card Processing.
I will send a note to Dave and ask if he might clarify – he knows that I’m the Distributor only, and not the Inventor
Thanks,
Mark
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This is in fact, NOT my product. Sudkee is the Inventor and it’s manufactured in Thailand buy a very reputable Contract Manufacturer
I hope Sudkee will join – maybe even post.
Dave Clark received his samples directly from me and he knows I have a site that’s almost ready.
Dave and Carol are on FB and other platforms – you are welcome to check it out with him
Thanks
Mark
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@facten
An edit to the review is in process now. I’ve reached out to Dave.
Sudkee’s response to the two articles was well appreciated. He has seen them and was pleased
There are plenty of products in this genre – size, shape, price all quite similar. Sudkee’s tech is different as I’m told. I have tested a few of these. I like the Puron a great deal and this is why I am happy to Distribute.
Sudkee has asked for my recommendations in other countries. I’ve made a few already.
Thanks
Mark
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@lalitk
Your note struck me in a good way
There are ideas that are being looked at in other areas. Products like Puron serve an appropriate purpose dealing with “noise” which is our enemy for best playback
As well, DC on your Mains is a destroyer in achieving the best sound possible. DC Snubbing is a MUST for getting the most out of your hi fi (in my opinion).
There are some incredible technologies being looked at by people I know that should be/will be, Game Changers. I don’t really think it’s appropriate for me to post these ideas here. If you would like to discuss the next step – feel free to e-mail me at [email protected]
Thanks
@ozzy
Glad to read your more fully fleshed out opinion of Puron. Thank you.
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Good Evening,
Per my note to everyone in the Puron queue, they did in fact arrive tonight on time.
Tomorrow they will begin shipping. Look for Tracking Numbers for those that have paid in the AM
Beyond these, another shipment is leaving next week to arrive by Friday.
Thanks to all for your patience
There are more reviews coming – today, Aural Musings posted their excellent review on Facebook
Thanks again,
Mark
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Quick short note
I’ve had several requests for Puron in 220/240 volt configurations.
We will have these with US Style - Nema 15 Plugs this week – arriving Thursday
We will have the same as above with Schuko style Plug arriving next week Wednesday or Thursday
Thanks
Mark
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Re Louder
I speculate that the reduction in noise utilizing Puron creates a blacker presentation – and thus, louder.
I have had this experience at home
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@rvpiano
YES, what Ozzy has said
Fun fact - you can plug and unplug at will and try it at the Duplex where your Conditioner is - or into an outlet IN the Conditioner
ENJOY!
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@68pete
Thanks very much – appreciate your comments.
I have mentioned to others – about 30 to 40 hours and then much better
Enjoy – Mark
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@stevebohnii
If you have a single Puron – please go into the Duplex or Quadplex where your Deep Core and Equi=Core are plugged into.
A good thing to try – is do the above as noted – but also try plugging the Puron into the EQUI=CORE 1800 mkiii (NOT the Deep Core). DC does a spectacular job with DC Snubbing as well as EMI/RFI mitigation.
I was discussing DC on the line with @rvpiano just this morning on a work break.
Please let me know if I can help
Thank You – Mark
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@tksteingraber
Thank you for your note – and I’m obviously very pleased with your findings
I’ve had an opportunity to speak with a few of you and share some information about Puron that I’ve experienced. It’s been a joy actually, as Denton is in the middle of a horrible Ice and Snowstorm. Entire City is closed down.
Puron is a really great product. Puron will work differently in each system because of the AC in the house. Some people have less DC on the mains than others. Puron is part of a bigger system solution.
Lots more to follow – but thanks again for now.
Mark
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Quick Note of Thanks to all
I have been very grateful for the support for Puron and FUSE BOX – thank you
Purons are back in stock as of Monday and we finally agreed with DHL / Customs to an HTC (Harmonizing Code) for Entry. Apologies that this took more time than imagined
Best wishes
Mark
PS – many of you are asking about Multi-AC Plug Adaptors for Duplexes. We should have something soon to suggest.
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Quick note
We are now set up “digitally” with UPS for an even better International shipping experience
All digital – very quick and painless now
Thanks to all of you for your incredible support re Puron and FUSE BOX
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@simguy
especially happy about this –
As others have mentioned with the Purons you get more detail without any harshness
I think this is a very key statement. Puron delivers a positive reaction in virtually every system it’s been tested in – be it Audio or Video.
Could not have said this better myself.
@stevebohnii
Lynn and I both miss Colorado too. Texas is warm and easy on our lives -
Happy Purons have found a home with my friends Deep Core and EQUI=CORE. Great marriage – no divorce in sight 😊
@facten
Good stuff all. Puron will integrate well – better as time goes on
Power On!
@ozzy
I agree 😊
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Good morning and thanks for taking a moment to read this
one of the beauties of being in the audio business for 54 years is you get to meet a lot of people that become very precious. Many years ago I met Roy Harris who is a very unique individual and somebody who truly loves the audio industry
Roy has reviewed for several publications most recently audiophilia and he really works hard at his craft.
Roy had asked me to sell him a puron which I did and he told me that he would after listening to it write a review and I was really happy about this
subsequently Roy was unable to write the review on his Chromebook and instead decided to send his review in handwritten form to me
I've dictated the review here into my word processor and although some might think this is quite duplicitous on my part I did say I would post the review for him here on this thread. My apologies to anyone who finds this offensive but I rather honor my friendship then not
the following is his handwritten notes to me
hi mark I'm having a problem composing a review on my Chromebook then I decided to mail it to you I'm very sorry to give you more work having to enter the review on a computer but I felt getting this to you is better than not getting it at all here it is
I auditioned a puron for two weeks having borrowed it from a friend before he flew to Florida after some experimentation I placed the puron into an outlet in series with my transport
I experienced many positive benefits selecting complex material such as a Shostakovich Symphony #5 conducted by André Previn I noted a wider soundstage greater separation between instruments and a greater base presence
listening to voices I observed several positive changes vocal range increased a consequence of the presence of the soundfield against my chest often I've heard works sound like words were emanating from the head I also heard a greater clarity and a more natural presentation I know this greater microdynamics from Frank Sinatra found on the recording only the lonely the overall effect was more realistic Timbers greater transparent lower noise and an absence of digital artifacts no products are perfect I would characterize the puron as having a slight tubelight character exemplified by liquidity and bloom a bit more energy in the lower mid range and base and a slight reduction of treble energy with the puron in my system listening is more enjoyable and less unpleasant musical passengers are encountered
the two salient attributes of this product I perceived are a naturalness of timber and greater base presence
I intend to purchase another puron
Roy Harris
subsequently Roy did purchase a second puron and I'm very grateful for his mini review here
I've known Roy since 1990 when Peter madnick and I started audio alchemy. I've spoken to several audio societies in New York over the years and Roy always attended he's a good friend but he's also not afraid to tell me what he really thinks regardless of how I might feel
thank you Roy for this review and your friendship
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@benzman
Actually - both are true.
When Roy asked me originally for Puron I simply didn’t have one for him.
He did borrow one from a friend
He liked it (understatement)
With more inventory - I shipped his initial order.
After that - he bought one more. I was paid for each of them. :)
Roy is not your average cup of coffee - he’s a very good guy, and very well known in NY/NJ audiophile circles.
Best wishes
Mark
PS - just because I knew this could happen - I took a picture (front and back) of Roy's letter to me - if anyone is interested - feel free to e-mail me at [email protected]om - glad to send the copy -
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Thank you benzman
Best always
Mark
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Quick thanks to all of you for your patience
DHL and Vera-Fi agreed to re-classify Puron as an Audio Accessory so we pay more Duty - but no more delays which means we are in stock on all models once again
Thanks DHL and those of you that showed great patience while this was solved.
Best to all - Mark
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@joenies
Trying not to clutter this thread with my own bias etc.
I agree with what ozzy has suggested.
Do remember that you have the option to return if you are not satisfied. No Questions - No BS.
Here to help if needed
Thanks
Mark
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@joenies
Hi Joe...
YES - I knew this was you.
Everything remains - if you need a few extra weeks to test - consider it done.
It might sound a bit trite - but YOUR satisfaction is all that counts in this house
Thanks
Mark
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Good Morning and Happy Holiday
Our very simple web site has been a bit overwhelmed these last few weeks.
We are going to build a more sophisticated site with a better and more Full Service Shopping Cart with more payment options, etc.
If you are interest in Puron or FUSE BOX please try to connect with me directly
[email protected]
I apologize in advance for this “commercial message”, but I want everyone interested to know that the site changes are moving forward quickly and we are ready for you.
Thanks -
Mark
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Good Morning All,
I must report at this time that Puron will undergo a small price increase on 1, May 2023
Puron 110v will go to $275
Puron 220/240v NEMA 15 US Style will increase to $295
Puron 220/240v Schuko will go to $295
Costs in shipping, Import Duty and Handling are the main causes
I will pay freight to all destinations at NO COST until June 1, 2023 and then I will begin to charge for freight.
Thanks for your amazing support.
Best wishes - Mark
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@joenies
Super glad you are3 pleased with your system. This IS, after all… where the rubber hits the road.
As far as Large Scale AC Conditioning I’m (obviously) a BIG Fan of Balanced Power. In my own home I had more than 3volts of DC riding on my AC Line. With my Core Power 1800 – 35mV now. Big difference – easier for the entire system to “work”. Transformers are happier – I’m happier.
I know you live far away, and freight is a bummer for something big/heavy – but I can and WILL help.
Available at your leisure
@ozzy
Glad the folks here have your referencing your experience with Puron
I believe strongly that Puron with your Niagra’s will get you to the next step in performance. Break In as you well know is an important consideration.
Video performance is not to be believed in my home. Really nice. Lynn and I are watching LIV Golf right now and it’s just stunning.
All,
Thanks for your support while we get these Secure Payment Links embedded in the verafiaudiollc site. We’ve had a learning curve there, but we finally have it right. The new links will post up shortly.
Apologies re the price increases May 1st. Just no choice.
Thanks again – Mark
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@xycbandit
Thanks so much for taking them time to post this. Nice way to start the day.
I offered my opinion to @joenies just a few posts earlier about Balanced Power and Puron. They work well together. I also suspect that @ozzy will find joy with his Niagra’s and Puron
There is also no better way to improve one’s system with solid DC Snubbing. There are several good products out there that do the trick.
Have a good Sunday All – Mark
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@nasaman
I’m sorry you feel this way. There are several reasons for this - they are
Cost for Transport with DHL is very expensive - as well as the new Duty Allocation now must be factored in
The increase is not too bad
US goes from $250 to $275 with freight pre-paid
Export goes from $250 to $295 and I will pay the freight and use UPS and NOT USPS - UPS is roughly $20-$30 dollars more
I personally feel this is not a terrible increase give the Paid Freight
Thanks - Mark
PS - I also stated in my post that I will not increase the price until May 1st - and in the meantime I will keep my $250 price and pay the freight anywhere in the world prior to May 1st.
Thanks x 2
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@ozzy
Thanks for believing in the product enough to try this. I felt very comfortable with my comments - trying to NOT sound like a know-it-all. Glad for you and thanks
@vule
Big thanks to you as well for your patience and kindness. Excited for your results. I hope sincerely hope it goes well.
@my friend out there in Ireland - thanks for your personal endorsement. I feel certain that you are reading this forum - so, I just want to thank you for your new order last night. I was REALLY Happy about it
Many to thank - but I'm sure this is probably enough for now.
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@stevebohnii
Many thanks - Please give it about 30 hours, even 40 plugged in. Big changes will start to happen. Break In is A Thing with Puron for sure
@tksteingraber - all I thought about all day was The Habit (no joke). You killed me - but we do have Portillos about 30 minutes from my home at The Colony, TX
Thanks to YOU for your faith and trust in my and the product. There are other solutions for sure - like our friend rsf507 just linked - Products from this company as well known to be good (Grounding especially)
What I know is this - We have a near to 97.xx Percent of Joy-filled users and at the Puron Price - this makes me and most of you smile.
I have some cool accessories coming too... Maybe I can say a bit more over the weekend. It’s been a busy week getting Bob Carver his new RAM 285 into Production Ready Mode and the new Class A Amp at my sister company ready as well --- https://www.xsa-labs.com/
Best wishes,
Mark
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Good Morning
Very nice to read these nice comments.
@justubes2
Appreciate your comments.
Have been to your country many times and I truly enjoyed visiting. I miss those Chili Crabs for sure 😊
My pleasure – and always here to help any of you. My plate is full with xsa-labs A40 and P40 coming as well as the new Bob Carver and several new LSA Products, but I really enjoy hearing from all of you.
@vule
Hope all is well there. Would love to visit one day for sure.
Should let everyone know (and apologies for cross threading here) that big news is ahead for FUSE BOX. Very excited…
Doing well in general… and if I could ever figure out DHL, my world would be just about perfect.
Thanks – Mark
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Good Afternoon
Orders in house are all shipping and will track tonight.
DHL threw a new curve ball at us - but thanks to some good DHL'ers in the Midwest and here in Dallas we are good.
Next large scale shipment even easier now.
Thanks to all for your support
Mark
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@ozzy
We have some incredible results on our 85" SONY
Same for our High End LG - very pleased
Glad to see Puron being used in this manner
Best to all - Mark
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@recklesskelly
Finally in stock again on every variant.
Step up Sir...
I'm ready :)
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Good Afternoon
Outside of Australia - Taiwan is our biggest Export Market to date. Very Vibrant Audio Scene in Taiwan. Used to travel there a lot in my Audio Alchemy Days
I've asked a few of our End Users there that have the Telos Mini to comment - Hopefully they will.
I do hear that this is an excellent product from an equally fine company
Best to all - Mark
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Wishing everyone a great Father's Day
Best wishes - Lynn and Mark
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@soundlogic
Lynn and I send our very very best... wow! Thank you.
@leicachamp
Please try it both ways. If here to help if you have further questions or needs.
Best wishes - Mark
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