The Audio Doctor makes a house call


I would like to contribute  to the discussion about Dave, the “Audio Doctor.”   I live in California but, after many phone conversations and texts where he provided advice about my system with no promise of any return, we decided a trip here from New Jersey would be worthwhile and worked out an arrangement.  Dave brought a lot of accessories for me to audition. First, we repositioned my speakers (KEF Reference 5s), which really improved the sound.  We tried a DAC (Aqua) to compare with my current Auralic Vega (first generation), wireworld interconnects and several other things.  I already had purchased an Innuous Zenith server from Dave and we set that up.  Dave was very enthusiastic about my speakers (which he sells but I already had purchased elsewhere) and my electronics (Audio Research amp, pre amp, phono stage) and never suggested buying new ones.   

At no point did I feel he was pressuring me or trying to sell me something just to make a sale.  My system is definitely sounding better now and I may move ahead with some other improvements he recommended. Of course, Dave is in the audio business and makes his livelihood that way but I think he was genuinely interested in helping me get better sound.  I know that some have objected to him and other dealers posting on this board.  Personally, I have found  his postings very helpful.  Those who don’t can always skip over them—no one is forcing you to read anything.  

Finally, I met Dave for the first time when he came here and have no connection other than as a recent customer.  
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Showing 7 responses by gpgr4blu

Audio Doctor is indeed the Energizer Bunny of self promotion (and promotion of his products) on Audiogon. At every opportunity and then some.
Stereo5:
I am very happy that you are enjoying your system. That is what this hobby is all about. My experience with Audiotroy’s constant trolling on Audiogon should do nothing to diminish your joy. I did not mean to rain on your parade. However, in typical Audiotroy fashion, instead of graciously thanking you and moving on, he once again put a shout out for himself and his products including subsequent statements that are backhanded slaps at other high end dealers:
"Just because you sell expensive gear doesn’t mean you have the experience to tune a system correctly."
Interpretation--others who sell high end gear don’t know how to tune a system, we do.
Having numerous experiences with Audiotroy and many high end dealers, I can tell you that I respectfully disagree.
I am embarrassed to be a member of the forum every time I have to read Audiotroy's self promoting long-winded pablum. But I refuse to let him ruin this otherwise collegial exchange of thoughts, ideas, experiences with fellow well-meaning Goners.

Classic Audiotroy.
His response to the criticism that he continually bangs his own drum and promotes his own wares is to provide more drum pounding and promotion. And this time it is even more long winded (if that’s possible) than usual. For those of you who think I’m a party pooper, check Audiotroy’s history and the numerous complaints he has generated on this site with his self promotion, many times on threads specifically limited by an OP to questions about a particular brand which Troy invades to suggest that his product of the moment (which is beyond the OP’s limited query) is better with a long explanation as to why.
I can assure all that, in my years on Audiogon, I have criticized no one on this site except for Troy and the poor fellow that used to (and may still) work for him.
I will mention again for those not in the know that I, and a number of my friends in NYC, used to go to Sound By Singer when he worked there. We all got so tired of listening to Audiotroy regale us ad naseum and his opinions and hard sell tactics, that we asked Andy to provide us with another salesperson. And two of us met each other long after he left Sound By Singer and marveled at our mutual experience. I do not recall ever spending less than 40 minutes hearing him talk before turning on the gear that I came to hear. The only thing worse than putting up with Troy’s bilious excretions here are actually enduring them in person.
I am very familiar with Dave having met with him at Sound By Singer on numerous occasions and had personal sales dealings with him. I have never suggested that he does not know what he's doing or that he does not carry good and sometimes excellent products (ie T&A). However, having a system that has morphed over many years and having substantial experience with literally hundreds of brands (and having built some kit myself)--it is his constant salesmanship here that is troubling. He claims that he carries the best of everything because he has personally listened to all of the competitors and his stuff is best. What about the dealers who would not permit him to represent them because they do not like sales out of a room in his house crowded with tons of equipment? What about the brands who are happy with other nearby dealerships and will not hurt them by letting him carry the same equipment? In NY, there are at least 10 high end dealers that carry prominent brands so it is not like other areas of the country where a manufacturer would love to have representation of any kind. 
As one who has gone to dozens of audio shows and knows every owner of each major dealer in NY personally (having made significant purchases over the years at virtually all of them)--I can say that any one of them can do what Dave does. They all genuinely believe in what they sell. They all carry excellent, well regarded and well reviewed gear and have on display in dedicated rooms signature systems that sound incredible--although each such system is not to everyone's tastes when compared to the others. Most have more experience than Dave (and he has a lot). So I am happy for those who appreciate Dave's work with them. I am unhappy for the rest of us who tire of his constant, self serving, long winded self promotion here.
 If all of the dealers I knew did what he did on this site (and any of them easily could), Audiogon would be less fun and have a lot less members. I hope Dave doesn't respond with his usual blabber about how many people he has helped, how he genuinely wants to help people but other dealers are just in it for the money, how he is performing a public service and why some people here are happy with his advice and should not be deprived of it because of people like me, etc,----   which is his usual response to criticism. 
Relentlesstroy
You are indeed the energizer bunny of long winded feral self promotion. You just can’t help it. 
Audiotroy:
Of course. You are the best. The two dealers you claim are not in your league. I can assure you, they are far above it. Elliot only carries Wilson, MSB, D’agostino, B&W, Avalon, Meridian, Lyra, VTL, Lamm, Naim and other top brands as well as many mid level brands in extremely expensive and beautifully treated dedicated sound rooms. I have not been to Andy’s new shop but I purchased BelCanto, Shunyata and HRS from him. He also carries Focal, VAC, Soulution, Ypsilon, Zanden and others. When you worked there and tried to sell me his stuff, you told me it was the best. Apparently, you’ve had a change of heart.
Please do not try to tell me that you are better than these fellas and that they don’t experiment with new products as I have experienced products which they contemplated carrying in their shops--some of which they decided to represent and others of which they did not.
Unlike you, they do not jam a million products into a few rooms in their home and try to sell them there.
I am not a best friend to either of these fellas, but they deserve infinitely better than your comments. Once again, you prove my point every time you write. You simply have no idea how to speak without attacking other dealers who are in fact better and more qualified to sell gear than you and to criticize the critics some of whom know infinitely more than you. I know. I’ve met you many times when you tried to sell me stuff. (You struck out everytime.)
Maybe you can meet me tomorrow night at Innovative when Elliot previews D’Agostino Relentless monos with Wilson Alex and MSB digital presented by Dan himself. Poor Elliott--he doesn’t know what he is doing, what the best products are and how to get manufacturers to preview their gear there. Maybe he can learn something from you. LOL.
Although--I don’t think so as I have purchased gear at such presentations. Perhaps you should change your moniker--let’s see--how about "Shameless"