Teres Turntable Support - concrete, wood, rack...?


Hi Folks:
I have a Teres 245 that I've been enjoying for the last year or so. I currently have it supported on two layers of concrete blocks, on top of a brick floor. With other component purchases/changes, my audio area is getting quite crowded. Hence, I'm evaluating options for more space-saving physical support for the Teres. I am seeking opinions on support solutions which would yield better or at least similar results from what I have currently, yet offer me space under the table support to store other components. Two ideas I have would be to buy one of these Adona racks:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accsrack&1104517073

Alternatively, I would be interested in pursuing some variation on the following rack that I noticed in one of the virtual systems, owned by the user Vetterone:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vaslt&1090182580&read&3&4&

Anyway, I'd welcome input and advice on what you would recommend. My budget sensitivity is about medium - I don't want to spend a lot but am open to spending more to get something that looks good and works well. Thanks!
John.
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Thanks guys for the input so far. Lugnut, that is an amazing rack you put together - yes it definitely looks like it does the job very well, and it looks fantastic. I'd definitely be interested in looking at building such a rack, although I've no experience with such construction - might be a fun project though. Thanks also for the kind offer to share input with me on the design - I do believe I'll take you up on that. Happy listening,
John.
Oakiris - just one other suggestion on the platform. I read in a recent thread here of one user having great success with a Prometheus stand/support coupled with a Nuance shelf - for an unsuspended turntable (can't remember which one, but it wasn't a Teres). The Prometheus stand is spring loaded (seeminly at odds with traditional views of supporting unsuspended turntables), but the guy seemed quite adamant that the improvements were substantial. Sorry I can't think of which Audiogon thread it was offhand. Still, might be worth researching further. I'd love to try such an approach. Also, even if the stand doesn't work well for the Teres, it could probably be used with great success for another component. Just another suggestion.
Hi Oakiris:
I'm upgrading my teres from 245 to 255 as we speak. So, I can share my thoughts on the improvements. Chris at Teres was kind enough to offer sending me the new platter before I send the old one back, so I can do before and after comparison. Should be fun. He's also sending me the new record clamp too, to see improvements there. Finally, I'm upgrading the motor and going for battery power too. All told, I expect to see a nice improvement.

I haven't heard the 265, but a few thoughts kept me back from pursing that purchase. For me, all that wood just looks a little old/vintage for me - wheras the 245 or 255 has a bit of a more modern look - just a matter of personal taste. Then, from reading other people's impressions, the upgrade from 245 to 255 appears to be more of an improvement than that of going from 255 to 265, and the price of the 255 upgrade is much more cost effective than going full out for the 265. Finally, I've read in at least one thread that some few people prefer the sound of the 255 to 265 (I think the point that was made was more resolution with the 255 compared to the 265 which had a more natural presentation). So, 255 seems the right way for me. Still, despite what I say, in the future I might sell the 255 and get a 320 - that table just looks great (despite all the wood) and looks less imposing than it's larger siblings.
Hi Oakiris:
I haven't gotten any new stand yet - still considering options. I'm tempted to get a the new Sistrum stand that Twl outlines as I've had good success with the sistrum 004 platforms for my speakers. Also, the upcoming sistrum turntable platform can hold two other components apart from the turntable. This is a key requirment for me, as my real-estate for audio is quite limited and I'm keen to get some more equipment stacked into the turntable footprint.

Right now I am using four standard concrete blocks on top of a brick floor area as a stand for the teres. This is per original recommendation I got from Twl, who's opinion I trust highly.

I did try adding a 3/4 inch thick MDF wood interface between the Teres and the concrete, but results were not so good in my opinion - it's possible some elements of the music were better, but overall the presentation was a little less resolved and lacked authority.

For reference, check out this very cool looking stand that was made specifically for a Teres:

http://www.decware.com/myroom/stand.htm

I got the link courtesy of Lugnut. The stand looks pretty amazing to me, and meets my needs of supporting some other equipment. Still, I'm not sure if I have the DIY know how and patience to build one myself.

Also, for reference, here are two other links which outline some good thoughts and optionions on turntable stands - might not be fully applicable to unsuspended turntables like Teres, but good thougths nonetheless:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1098041017&read&3&zzlSuttlaw&&

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1098041017&openflup&19&4#19

Cheers,
John.
So, I've inquired about this rack:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?accsrack&1107221335

because, the price is right, the rack looks great, and it's supporting a Teres 255. I'm still not sure how it will sound with the Teres, but it's a strong contender. I'm also inquiring to the manufacturer if they can make a tall double-stand, that will accomodate all my equipment, and the Teres. That would be ideal, as I've seven other components to accomodate, not including my two power amps, which I guess I can do seperately on amp stands.

Anyway, the adventure continues. If I get this rack, I'll post my impressions. Cheers,
John.