Tekton Double Impacts vs the competition....


So I recently have been on a pursuit of better speakers ...I know its all relative to each individual listener . I am a professional musician and am seeking some powerful depth and clarity for my cavernous living room which will be addressed and treated. 30x11x10 pitched ceiling. 

I am polling the Tekton Double Impact owners they're opinions on living with these seemingly beast like cool speakers....after auditioning Harbeth and various others, I remain in a state of inquisitive, insatiable limbo and am ready to forge into some new sound arena....many of these high end speakers just aren't available to demo . What can handle high volume and still hold the presence and clarity / bottom? 

my tastes : Prince, all 70's jazz fusion such as Billy Cobham, Return to Forever, Lee Ritenour, Led Zeppelin, Kiss , Miles, Coltrane, Steely Dan , Toto, Jellyfish, Plini, David Maxim Micic , overall its melodic rock / jazz that needs to be sometimes cranked to very high levels especially on "bro night" 

Marantz PM-11S1
Sony STR V7
SVS SB1000 Sub

Thank you all ! 
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tommy:

The DIs are remarkable for making all styles sound good. This is one of the first things you notice about them. Then there is the realistic dynamic range that enlivens the music and makes all sound "right there." They blossom naturally with the source and will only start distorting when you get way past normal levels.

Pop music is much less difficult to reproduce than is dense orchestral music. My system is now completely tuned and I can sit back and point out each orchestral section/soloist and assess their instrument's timbre. The soundstage is that good.

You do NOT need a sub with these if you tune them well (I use REW and JRiver). Your room will also impact bass response dramatically and some owners claim they need more bass. My larger room is very friendly to long waves and I have the DIs tuned down to 16hz with a little bumb upwards from 25 to 70cps.

Take it from me -- you will not be disappointed with these speakers.

tommypenngotti:
Am a musician as well and have had the DIs for over a year. They live in a living area a bit larger than yours and can make it sing as loud as I can stand. Listen equally to pop and classical music and like very loud orchestral music (the loudest of all styles). They handle it easily if you have the amplifier behind them -- and they are very easy to drive at 98 db efficiency. With 50 years of audiophile and studio experience I can assure you that your description fits the Impacts to a "T." Give them a try and if they don't please, send them back. BTW, check out the long Tekton thread by Corelli; it's got a ton of info. What you will learn as you research is that all DI owners praise their speakers -- this is unusual.

tommy:

Forgot to mention -- Yes, did get the upgrades and recommend you do too.

Tommy:

No, there is only the one upgrade -- to better wire and capacitors/binding posts. Those other options are for adding additional speakers for 3 and 5 channel setups.

REW is a free Internet app that many studio and professional musicians use to measure their frequency and impulse response then create a convolution file (*.wave file) that is imported into JRiver and used to EQ all music files so they sound perfect in your room. REW creates the impulse correction automatically and I have learned over the years to do my own frequency correction -- it is more effective when you spend the extra time. But REW can also create an auto frequency correction as well.

Have spent 4 years tuning my summer stereo system to be as accurate as possible and it is now +/- 3db from 16 to 30k  hz -- this is total room and system response which is challenging to do.

This is what I have learned.

It's always best to do as much correction in the physical realm as possible -- corner traps, wall deadeners behind the speakers, etc. Once you are maxed out here, then use Impulse and EQ correction, This will be best if it is done in the virtual realm -- e.g. JRiver.

REW is free and JRiver is cheap. They will make more improvement in your overall system than many multi-thousand components. It does require that you keep your music sources as digital rips in JRiver -- but this has som many advantages that once you get used to it, you will not go back.

tommy:
This is the single wiring/crossover/binding upgrade I mentioned above. As far as I know, it is the only stock upgrade available. The DI SE is a different model tailored for dealers that includes different drivers and a more sophisticated crossover. Specific drivers for this model have not been made public.
You should prepare a list of all your concerns and call up Eric. He will answer all of your questions and has a superb ability to ask questions designed to select the proper speaker. Like you, he is a musician as well (a fine drummer) and where else can you call the owner of a company and have him help you with advice concerning the product? Eric is also open to new product suggestions and makes adjustments to individual designs as time and monies permit.
Give him a call, Tommy. You will not regret it. Use my name and he will charge you an additional $100.

tommy:

Two small but significant tweaks that many of us have made are to 1) baffle the back two ports with some kind of acoustic material and 2) insert Herbies Glider Feet that cushion the boxes movement.

For the first, I have constructed a 16" X 32" custom baffle that is affixed to the wooden stand on which my DIs sit. This will lightly soften bass volume while, significantly, increasing its accuracy and presence. ONCE the baffles are in place, the speaker can be placed as close to the wall as you like. Mine are about 18" from a treated wall.

For the second, go to http://herbiesaudiolab.net/spkrfeet.htm and check out the Threaded Stud glider. It will not only help bass accuracy, but will, surprisingly, improve soundstage quite a bit. Eight of them run about $130 and are well worth the price.

There are plenty of variants and don't think you need to do this right away -- you might find adjustments in your room that are even better.

Yes if you place the panels low enough they will do the same thing but I had problems with wall outlets.

Use speaker cloth to cover and stretch it so it looks clean; can get this at any Michaels-type fabric store. Only use "green" insulation-type material in your panels -- fiberglass has health issues.

kristofa:

They are overlong (16" W X 30" L) bases with a 1/8" plywood support (16" W X 32" H) screwed at right angles to the back end of the base. On the front of this right angle (speaker facing), one sheet of 1" chair foam batting and two sheets of 2" EcoTouch home insulation are tack glued. Then the back piece/foam is covered in speaker cloth, tack glued and stapled. Once you have the materials and basic idea, takes an hour or two to build.

AND, regardless of the simple design, THEY WORK. The DI cabinet pressure is not affected but the 180 degree out-of-phase port noise is killed. Will very lightly reduce the total bass volume but will substantially improve accuracy and presence. I use REW EQ to bring the bass volume back exactly where I like it -- about 5db high from 16-80 hz.

BTW, have also gone over to the half grill alteration discussed towards the end of the epic DI/Corelli thread. Have used this for two weeks, retuned my room response, and will not be going back to a full grill. Check it out.

Well, I agree and have been thinking of buying two sets of DIs and inverted one pair then chaining those two together -- same as the Ulfbehrts but $6k less expensive...a nice, biker-type chain I would think.