I own a pair of moab’s. They are incredible speakers they have very good dynamics even at any volume.
Congratulations! You must be very happy. Your comment mirrors others who have said they don’t need to be turned up loud to sound good. I have a hunch this has something to do with their incredibly fast and detailed dynamics. But whatever the reason the fact remains a lot are hearing it, and that’s what counts.
I also have an svs sb16 ultra that does help a little at very low volume but once you start turning it up the moab’s have plenty of low end and the sub is too much.
Very common. There’s even a technical explanation for it- equal loudness contours. Do a search, study the graphs. What they are saying, we do not hear frequencies equally across the range. Especially at the lowest frequencies, they have to be quite loud to even register at all. But then once they do cross that threshold then even a little bit louder sounds a lot louder. That is what the contour lines bunching together is telling us.
What this means in practical terms is if you set your subs to sound perfect at one volume level, then when you turn the volume down they will not be loud enough- but when you turn the volume up they will be too loud. This is why the loudness control used to be so common, and its also why its such a challenge to get the bass dialed in.
The only real solution would be a variable level that adjusts automatically to your custom spec. Okay, I know, dream on. The compromise I went for is to take my time, make very small (tiny, near inaudible) adjustments very gradually. We’re talking over a period of weeks here. Because it takes time to relax and listen to different recordings and at usual listening volume levels.
This last is crucial because what you think is the perfect level changes with volume. The result I came up with, its perfect at my usual critical listening level. There’s a bit more at high rock out levels, which is fine. You kind of want more then anyway. Not a lot more, just enough. There’s a bit less at lower levels, but then it doesn’t matter as much anyway.
You can see how pointless it would be to try and accomplish this with meters. The meters register the same dB change regardless of volume. Meters will get you flat but cannot make the judgment call you can of balancing for overall satisfaction.
Thanks for bringing this up. It will add to the usefulness of this thread when my Moabs come and we go about the process of getting them dialed in.