He's asking a grand or so less than he paid, I guess if a buyer is local and ready for a full set of orange... But to ship the lot, almost better off ordering new
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There is a guy on the Tekton Facebook group that has the Polycell 15's. He listens to Rock and metal and driving them with a little PS Audio Sprout100 integrated, 100W into 4 Ohms, class D. He says they are neutral and very detailed, musical with no listening fatigue. Runs with subs but feels the bass is good on there own. Wonder how these would sound with tubes or class A?
lalitk, In my experience, the best solution to avoiding "gear churning exercises" is to enjoy what we have. When I look for problems I usually can find them. The key for me is appreciating more than nitpicking. And if you have a system like Magister for creating good clean power, effective vibration control and good room acoustics, and can be done for not too much $$, then one can really appreciate what they have.
I agree that different components as well as cables take time to break in. And some can take a very long time. In my experience, Tektons need only a few days to be there. Not weeks or months. So twoleftears, if your point is that one should wait till it's broken in before applying enhancements, then I do not believe your point has relevance in regards to MC and his Moabs. In my understanding of this thread, he did nothing but perhaps put some contact enhancer on the terminals in the first couple of days. And that is hardly changing the speaker. Sure he looked in the port and described what he saw and what he felt was the potential for enhancement, but not much else. Perhaps he actually followed the heart of your sentiment. And at the same time, I do not have an issue with one doing all they can to make their systems sound as good as possible during a given break-in. It's your system, enjoy it.
Lalitk, the exercise of creativity, call it embedding, call it tweaking, may not be for everyone. But no need to rain on another's parade because it may not be for you.
I keep tabs on the Tekton Facebook group. A wide range of systems and experience from HT receivers pushing all 5 or 7 speakers on up to what many on this forum would consider a very good system. And everyone is excited with the better sound they get from whatever model they own. This kind of enjoyment and excitement in music is what makes this hobby great. I appreciate the enthusiasm and support found there. I also find it here, but it can take more work. Hoping we can move this forum back to why we love audio more than a place of contentious debate. My 2 cents. (that and 4 bucks will get you a Starbucks)
devilboy , Sure, Eric is a speaker designer, a mad scientist type even. He does not farm out his calls to some offshore customer service center. Thank God, we would never get any real questions answered that way.
I would rather talk with the man and get exactly what I want and then some even if I needed to call a few times.
Glupson I think audiogon should hire you as a thread moderator. You put
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Glupson I read your Moab recommendation on the 5K speaker thread. Not a glowing endorsement, but a recommendation all the same. Part of me wants to think highly of you for swallowing it and recommending a speaker that is really not for you. Kudos. BUT another part of me wants to think that perhaps this was part of a diabolical plan. Throw us a bone, and throw us off the scent?? ;-)
I can probably do nothing to disuade you from thinking it was a diabolical plan.Just busting your balls. I appreciate your honesty.
A good and honest comparison of their sound with and without grilles might help potential buyers make as informed of a decision as possible.
I do not own Moabs but another model. I have found that my Tektons do sound slightly better with the grills off. And I have found that to be the case with most other speakers I have owned.
I see evidence for both coupling and decoupling speakers / floors and more importantly, have heard lots of opinions on which type works better in a given circumstance (system to system). I feel it is best to try and see what works. I have not yet tried springs, looking forward to some opinions on results here.
I purchased a pair or Enzo XL's from Eric about two years ago. (the 48" double ported version) They completely trounced my former pair of B&W's. I continue to thoroughly enjoy the rich sound they produce. The MOAB is at the top of my list when it comes time for an upgrade. Looking forward to your review MC!
I keep tabs on the Tekton Facebook group. I enjoy sharing in the excitement. And I have spent time answering questions posed. Many on FB, I surmise, would not call themselves audiophiles, but more lovers of music. And they seem to feel that their new speakers have taken them to a place they have never been before. I can hear some of us saying that ignorance is bliss. Maybe the enjoyment of the music is what matters, and less about how we get there. Horses for courses. My neighbor loves his Focals, I am keeping my Tektons.
If that is not changing the speaker's performance, why do it?You are misreading my post. The point was to clarify at what point MC began tweaks on his Moabs, nothing to do with the performance of the Moabs.
And it is my understanding that contact enhancers are designed to enhance how well the signal passes from wire to terminal, but not enhance the terminal itself.
I understood that you were talking about timing of those tweaks by millercarbon. Still, those sentences caught my attention as they could catch the attention of anyone reading carefully and trying to understand. Had they not been there, I would not have noticed them or thought about them.Be careful. Taking sentences out of context from a post and then painting it in a different light could be considered malicious. And certainly not constructive.
protoss71 I use a Beresford TC-7220. I did a lot of comparing and as long as you are using quality cables and short runs, I can not really hear a difference between the switch in place or not. I run a tube preamp for music and switch to the HT processor for movies. I have run the HT through an open line in the Pre, but I prefer not to burn the tubes more than I need.
Glupson, here is what I wrote:
So twoleftears, if your point is that one should wait till it's broken in before applying enhancements, then I do not believe your point has relevance in regards to MC and his Moabs. In my understanding of this thread, he did nothing but perhaps put some contact enhancer on the terminals in the first couple of days. And that is hardly changing the speaker.In this context, "changing" the speaker means something like changing out drivers, changing caps etc. But most people already get the point.
Contact enhancers may change the quality of the signal passing through the speaker. Nothing to do with terminals. Please move on.
Enjoyed the wood block story. That is one of my favorite things about Tektons. They can make instruments, especially percussion, sound like the musician is standing right next to you, crisp, clean and detailed. Like you can tell from the sound what kind of wood the drumstick is made out of.
Looking forward to more MC!