Alright, enough already people.
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That sounds right.
The LTA amps are a different breed of tube amps better suited to more speakers with its lower output impedance than most tube amps as I recall.
No surprise then Tekton did well with those. Not a good case for representing tube amps in general though. The sound was much like what I hear with my Class D amps, SS performance with good detail and low fatigue factor..
I believe I heard the same Tekton Double Impact room at CAF as glupson. I visited at ~ 11 am Saturday. Show started Friday. The sound was perfectly fine to my ears at modestly high volume. They did a good job setting things up in a somewhat small and cramped hotel room. Certainly nothing offensive sounding that I could detect. Maybe with some recordings which is to be expected, but I stuck to choosing decent sounding recordings given my limited time. I think I recall a 10 watt or so tube amp was being used. I spent about 30 minutes or so listening, as much time as with most any vendor there. They let me choose the music. I think source was one of the Cd res streaming services.
YMMV but that is always the case when it comes to personal preferences.
It’s silly to have to debate whether everyone will like a particular speaker or not. That is probably never the case. Hence we get so many to choose from. All shapes sizes and creeds.
I think by practical they mean practical approach to a lot of good sound for the money. Needless to say larger models will be less practical for more no matter what brand.
Glupson I think audiogon should hire you as a thread moderator. You put a lot of energy into it even for products you don’t like.
IT’s very hard to describe how anything sounds accurately in words alone, though generally one expects more words over time to help add some clarity.
Having heard Double Impacts, the best concise description I could give to help someone understand the sound is they sound good much in the way you would expect them to based on appearance ie bigger and with more drivers than many high end speakers for comparable cost. Better? YMMV like most things. Size often does matter though as long as quality is not left behind. Tekton seems to strike a reasonable and somewhat unique balance for the price in general.
Tupu if you are a Plex user you should try the new Plexamp app although I think it requires Plex pass subscription to download. Plex app does not do CD resolution. Plexamp does. Also has a lot of nice features. I just started using it To stream from my music library and like it a lot. I’ve also been a Squeeze system user for many years. There is a nice video about it on the Darko site.
My preference would be for people to stop telling other people what to post or not. That’s called censorship and something we need less of, not more. If you post controversial things expect a response. It’s all good. Just follow the rules. If you can’t handle it, then maybe think twice before posting.
Maybe. If you connect all their vocal chords together in series in a single body and sing together real low........
Not all analogies are created equal......
Glupson, for the record Stereophile measurements published for other Tekton models using the array design clearly show that the midrange is not only there but pretty good both on and off axis. So its a safe bet its all those tweeters doing it.
For bass, you probably need an array of wider range drivers to have a chance. Like those expensive skinny speakers you pointed out earlier costing a fortune. But even those had very limited bass response. Maybe Bose 901s are a good reference point.. So it might be made to work somehow but my guess is its not a very practical design. Patent time?
I would just point out that with driver arrays each driver need not work as hard so that might lower cost of driver needed but now you have many.
Many ways to skin the cat. Tektons seem to measure well and please people including reviewers and myself at least for limited audition time I had.
I look at it as yet another way to do things well but obviously with many drivers at a particular cost point they can’t be too expensive. Every company must be able to make a profit to thrive.
My theory would be placing speakers on springs is one way to isolate from the floor, if needed. Floor interactions with the speakers result in muddy bass that also obscures detail in the midrange and can affect imaging and all the rest negatively.
There are other solutions as well. I use Auralex subdude isolation pads under my Ohm Walsh speakers when needed and that delivers the positive results of isolation as well similar to the more common use under subwoofers..
Then, separately from isolating from floor interactions, there is the stability of the speaker cabinet as it rests on various platform types. Using springs could certainly produce different results than using more rigid isolation platforms.
So these are two different ways choice of isolation solution might make the sound different.
Myself, I would prefer a solution that isolates the speakers from the floor and still provides a solid foundation for the speaker to rest on as originally designed but of course as always YMMV.
Wikipedia indicates Sanyo is owned by Panasonic these days and Panasonic is still a major Japanese electronics company.
Also for the record here is a reference to the Onkyo/Klipsch transaction. Klipsch is a distributer of Onkyo now apparently.
So likely we will see a lot of advertising of Onkyo and Klipsch together.
We sold a lot of Onkyo gear back in the good ol days at Tech HIfi. Was always one of my favs. Good sound, looks and build back In the late 70 s.
Business relationships are complex these days and probably a topic for elsewhere. Sorry I brought it up.
The demeaning and self-serving innuendo that only Chuck gets things done and better than everyone else is very condescending and uncalled for. Where do you get that stuff from?
Did I mention obnoxious? It definitely sets the tone for conversation though. Sad times.
I summarized my opinion on Tekton above about a page back. Buried in the fluff I suppose. But there.
Regarding midrange, when I heard DIs at Capital Audiofest the DIs we’re in a typical size hotel room off a smaller tube amp of some sort as I recall.
My recollection is the midrange was very good. It had a lot of presence as I recall and nothing problematic at least to my ears. Again Tektons made my cut for products I would consider buying, more likely were I to try a tube amp, however probably smaller models in that I personally am more interested in downsizing than getting bigger at my age and I am not overly fond of the aesthetics.
I disagree with a lot OP says. I also agree with some things. Bottom line is I think Tekton offers a good value product that is unique in certain ways hence the popularity.
I am big on value. I want to spend as little as I can to get as close to the perfect sound for me I can. Looks and size also matter to me.
That way I can afford to buy more music and enjoy things more. Maybe even more separate systems to listen to than I already have. My eggs are in multiple baskets. It’s a disease! I even tweak for heaven's sake!
So just to summarize, as I’ve stated from the beginning, I have heard Tektons (Double Impacts) and liked them enough to make the cut, meaning they are on the list of products I would consider buying. The pluses and minuses have been well documented here and elsewhere. Not much else to say in lieu of living with a pair. One thing I have noted recently is though they are a reasonable choice for use with lower powered tube amps, they are probably not the best choice in that regard, though likely better than many, perhaps even most, especially at the price point. Personally I would throw a relatively juicy higher powered SS amp at them. My existing Bel Canto ref10000ms would surely fit the bill as they do with my big Ohm Walsh speakers. I use a tube pre-amp in front and that might be a nice touch for many. Then again there is probably not a speaker out there that the Bel Cantos cannot drive to the max (maybe a few plagued with extreme low impedance and phase issues) so the choices are virtually unlimited with an amp like that.