uberwaltz and glupson...Thanks for the suggestions. When the time comes, which means when I sell my house, I will look into Spatial and ATCs. My Harbeths will be hard to beat since heavy bass is not a priority for me. And by the way: those of you who think Harbeths don't do bass, you are wrong. They will not go as low as large woofered full range speakers, but they are more than adequate for the majority of music I listen to. I was pleasantly surprised the first time I listened to Debussy's "La Mer". There are some parts that go into some very powerful bass. The Harbeths did just fine. |
glupson...You are a natural born diplomat. If you were asking me about an amplifier for Moabs I'm afraid I would be of little help. I never give advice on these forums because my knowledge is very limited. I'm trying to learn so I listen more than I speak. As for color, I agree with thecarpathian. I prefer the look of wood. I think my Harbeth Super HL5 Plus in rosewood are beautiful. |
+1 millercarbon
Thank you for exposing this great hoax of a pandemic. All those funerals for the supposed 120,000 who have died in the US were faked! The elderly in nursing homes, who it was claimed died, are still alive and just playing a joke on their family members who are frantically trying to see them maybe for the last time. It was all a left wing HOAX! Probably Antifa. And this crap about social distancing and wearing masks had nothing to do with the fact that the infection and death rates were not as high as the phony models projected. Those millions of people who thought they were being respectful and responsible to others and wore masks and tried to social distance were fools! They were played by fake news and that Antifa Fauci. And Sandy Hook never happened. My hero Alex Jones exposed that fraud. And the kids in cages down on the border are child actors. The real news Fox proved that. And don't get me started on that walking on the moon thing. Everybody knows that was faked. How about we just talk about audio equipment. I'm sure there are other forums for conspiracy theories. |
Amen nwres. We can only hope. |
millercarbon...I knew you couldn't resist. At the beginning of the thread you said the thread was about your new speakers. You made it clear you didn't want any distractions from the topic of your choice. You didn't even want people to comment on the ugliness of the speakers (I personally could not care less about the looks of the speakers. I agree with you it's all about the sound.) You broke your own rule for this thread when you turned it political with "fake pandemic". You started it millercarbon. |
millercarbon...at 2:09am on 5/23 you posted the following: "I'm in Redmond, just east of Seattle, once ground zero in the fake CCP pandemic. At one point early on something like 70 people had died here, all within 3 miles of home. Being over 60 I was especially concerned." That, unless I missed something, was the first mention of the pandemic in this thread. Again, unless I am mistaken, you started it as you have done in multiple threads. You seem disappointed that not as many people died in your area as had been projected. If you want to be around a lot of sick people, many of whom are dying, why not go to Florida, Texas, Georgia, Arizona, or even California, though to the governor's credit there steps are being taken to address the surge. ? If you look at the numbers of cases in many states right now, I would think you would be rejoicing that your area dodged the bullet. Instead you seem disappointed and downright angry. |
glupson...You're right, it is benign. I could not care less about his trying to convince people of how smart he is to buy the Tektons. Good for him - hope he enjoys them. That's all that's important. I do care about his gaslighting of the pandemic that is having a devastating impact on areas of the country and shows no signs of slowing down. I go back to what I have said before: If I'm wrong, and we follow guidelines calling for masks and social distancing and it turns out to have been unnecessary, then people were inconvenienced - not a huge sacrifice to make when dealing with a virus that we are still learning about. As you know that's why it's called the novel coronavirus; not the first coronavirus, but the first we've seen of this type. People seem to forget that when they start criticizing experts who are doing the best they can with the limited information available. Researchers are learning new things about this virus every day. If the people who are calling this a hoax and say wearing masks is political correctness and unnecessary, well, if they're wrong and convince people to not follow the guidelines - people die. I'm not willing to take that chance with other people's lives. I will continue to take my advice from people who have been studying infectious diseases all their lives. I will not take advice from someone's "gut" no matter how "bigly" it continues to get. I will not be the first to politicize a thread, but I will respond to people dispersing dangerous misinformation. |
p05129...I have little respect for Bill Maher and do not follow his politics. He does not speak for any particular political party. He is an equal opportunity critic and not very effective in my opinion. So let's leave him out of this. As for the Boston Herald, that was an opinion piece. You are quoting an op ed or a letter to the editor but that is not a quote from Nancy Pelosi or any other prominent Democrat. That was quite disingenuous. I can't believe you went there and tried to use that in your argument. Shame. And using a Democrat (supposedly) who is criticizing Democrats? Good. We should not spout party lines blindly. It shows there is diversity of opinion and Democrats are not monolithic in their views. That's not a bad thing, but it also doesn't prove anything. And yes, I have been living in a cave, or rather a swamp for the last 20 years. I moved from California to northeastern NC to help my Mother when my Father passed away. She has now Passed and I am looking to get the hell out of here. What I did was such a DEMOCRAT thing to do. Wouldn't you say? |
p05129...You can't possibly believe that Democrats WANT the economy to tank so they can win the election. I do not call myself a Democrat or Republican (I have been called a Taliban by a certain member on this thread) but I will say, of the two parties Democrats have proposed programs and legislation to benefit people before large corporations. I don't see evil on the Democrat side. Wanting people to starve and lose their homes would be evil. Democrats are saying that we have to take care of the health situation before we can turn our attention to the economy. The states that opened early ignoring the guidelines of the CDC and other infectious diseases experts, are not faring well. How is that helping people? Do you really believe Fauci, who has worked for Republican and Democrat presidents wants to hurt the economy? You're trolling, right? OK, good one - you got me going. |
I agree with millercarbon. People, or a certain person who, for no apparent reason other than to let their political beliefs be known to others, bring up "fake pandemic" in a discussion of audio equipment should just go away. There is no place for it in these forums. I'm with you millercarbon. I took the pledge to never be the first to bring politics into the discussions and I kept my word. If you go back over your posts on many threads you're on you will find that you are the first to bring it up. It always happens when you tell people where you live and then point out that it was supposed to become the epicenter of the "fake pandemic", or something to that effect. I challenge you to go back and check to see who starts it. |
Thank you mapman. I will keep my word and not be the first to bring politics into a discussion. |
charles1dad..That's probably a fair criticism of what I wrote. I apologize. |
Credit to all those who have tried to alert people to the growing health problem in the country. I do not wish to hijack this thread, but I do need help with room treatment. Would someone recommend a particular forum thread and then, if you feel you can or want to help, meet me there. All help is appreciated. |
If the subject wasn't so serious, and the possible consequences so dire for people who fall for the misinformation, I would leave it alone. Again, I will not introduce politics into a thread, but I will respond to dangerous rants not based on facts and science. I usually stay quiet on threads about equipment because I feel that's the best way to learn. I do not claim to be an expert. I'm more vocal when the conversation is about music, of which I do know a little. |
twoleftears...After reading the posts you cited I have come to the conclusion that we're screwed. How do you even respond to that kind of thinking? I'm taking millercarbon's marching orders and moving along. I just hope that the dangerous narrative put out by some does not go unchallenged. |
I would welcome any help I can get. |
millercarbon...There's a lot to unpack here.
"Fortunately millercarbon is no moron, and bought HCQ months ago, just in case."
You bought HCQ, and you're actually going to take it? And you're not a moron? Have you tried injecting Clorox, or found a way to shine ultraviolet light into your body? You really need to lay off the Kool-Aid. And just in case what? In case it's not a hoax as you claimed?
If you do have covid-19, despite my past and present criticisms of you I sincerely wish you well and hope you recover completely. |
oldhvymec...Kool-aid is used to refer to someone who has swallowed an argument that is not based in fact. It's only literal when referring to Jonestown, but that's obviously where the expression came from. What's wrong with me? How much time you got? As for the poison reference, the CDC has said Hydroxychloroquine has been shown to cause heart problems and other issues in some people. Oh wait, I forgot, they're deep state. The drug has, as pointed out in another post, been used for decades to treat Malaria - a disease caused by a protozoa. Covid-19 is caused by a virus, not the same thing. I realize there can be cross-uses for some drugs, but medical research, conducted by EXPERTS, not someone's ever protruding gut, have found HQ does not have any positive effects on the virus but can cause problems for some people. Again, I wish MC a speedy recovery. |
It's very difficult sometimes to determine cause and effect. If someone has Covid and is given HQ and then recovers, does that prove that the HQ cured the person from Covid? The death rate from Covid is in the low single digits. Most people will recover, although research is finding long-lasting complications for many people who have survived the disease. So the person who received the HQ could have been one of the people who would have recovered regardless of taking the drug. Then add an antibiotic, a category of drugs used to treat a bacterial infection (which can be caused by a viral infection) and how do you say for certain that either the HQ or the antibiotic was the cure? Again, the great majority of those infected will recover without taking HQ or antibiotics. If you search for the latest research on HQ and its efficacy on Covid, you will find REPUTABLE websites like WHO, CDC, and FDA which will give you all the information you need to put the idea that HQ cures Covid to rest. If you go to Infowars, all bets are off. What happened to the Oleander cure? |
Charles1dad...I posted before reading your last post which is a little more in line with the latest research. You say you know of no infectious disease literature that has expressed caution as it relates to a limited course (of using HQ?) for Covid-19. You don't feel that CDC, WHO, FDA, and NIH are reputable organizations for information about HQ and Covid-19? |
charles1dad...A very reasonable post. The WHO made mistakes, but many of them were caused by accepting the Chinese version of events - exactly like a certain person in a high office did at the beginning. Don't forget he praised the Chinese government for its transparency. I believe the WHO is making up for the bad start and is trying to put out reliable information. Also, it's called a novel coronavirus for a reason. Nobody knew anything about this virus at the beginning and we're still learning new things about it every day.
I don't want to seem insensitive, but there are a lot of people who did not take the precautions recommended by health experts and ended up getting sick from the virus they called a hoax. That's tragic - people make mistakes but that doesn't mean they deserve to get sick. But I have a problem with people who don't keep their own skepticism to themselves but instead try to convince others that they are weak and stupid to follow guidelines like wearing a mask and social distancing. Make decisions for yourself, don't put others in danger.
I'm amazed this thread lasted this long. Glupson, you sound like a decent person, but the subject that has hijacked (and I didn't start it) is too important to allow dangerously bad information to go unchallenged.
mahgister I see you're here. The 20 disk works of Chopin performed by Rubinstein was maybe the best purchase I have ever made. |
glupson...What you say makes a lot of sense. Sometimes I wish I could just let things go, but it's not in my nature. I never start the politicalization of a thread, but I cannot stay quiet when someone spouts nonsense. I haven't been following threads much lately and was amazed at how many pages this one had, so I went to the end and saw MC sounding like he had Covid19 after ridiculing those of us who take it seriously. When I read how smart he thought he was for buying HQ when he didn't have Covid just in case it turned out not to be a hoax, (someone correctly pointed out that many people suffering from lupus were unable to get their medication because of the hoarding of HQ) I couldn't resist.
mahgister...good to hear from you. |
Milercarbon is back! As insulting, arrogant, and condescending as ever - still promoting snake oil cures. Hopefully, people will follow the guidance of people who have devoted their lives to finding scientifically verified answers to our current predicament. I am going to call you out directly on this Millercarbon. Keep your anti-scientific snake oil beliefs to yourself. You have a right to treat yourself however you want, but you have to understand that you have a base on these forums. There are people who look up to you and could possibly follow your course of action. If they get Covid and take the same steps you say you are following, and they die, you are at least partly responsible. Are you willing to take that risk with other people's lives? You are as dangerous as your hero you so blindly follow. I do not claim to know it all when it comes to infectious diseases. I choose to follow the guidance of experts in the field - not your tax-cheating hero's enormous gut.
glupson...You tried, and we were doing so well. But rixthetrick took us back and MC chimed in to insult the "know-it-alls" because he doesn't have the time or energy to explain it to us mere mortals. What kind of person insults people who have, despite their disagreements, been willing to put those disagreements aside to wish him well? That's the kind of person we're dealing with here. Now back to the subject of audio equipment. I had Magnepan 3.6s which I loved but worried about the extreme humidity where I currently live. I then bought Tyler Acoustics Decade D20s which are excellent speakers, but huge. Since I am planning to move and didn't want to deal with moving the speakers I looked for smaller speakers that are known for exceptional midrange which is where most of my preferred music - classical - resides. I chose the Harbeths. I don't live near high-end audio shops so I couldn't audition very many speakers. I am happy with my choice but when I move, and if I have a listening room large enough, I might go with another pair of Magnepans, maybe the 20.7s.
thecarpathian...I have a Lyngdorf TDAI2200 integrated which serves my purpose for the moment, but I will probably upgrade when I buy new speakers. |
Does this make sense?
"Great news. Imagine if everyone was like me, all logic and results oriented. Without all the emotionally immature people easily turned off by the least relevant things no telling how long I might have had to wait, or how much more it would cost."
The way it's written makes it sound like emotionally immature people easily turned off by the least relevant things were why MC didn't have to wait very long and didn't have to pay more.
Am I missing something? Somebody explain it please. |
