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With Inna on this one. I own both the new 1200GR (made in Japan) and the 1500C (made in Malaysia). They are both well made. Admittedly, it was the 'made in Japan' badge that made me psyched about buying the 1200, among other things. I like the look of DJ style turntables and new production 1200 TTs meant not having to deal with all the Super OEM knock-offs (Hanpin) that are offered by a dozen or so companies.
Hopefully it all works out. I remember from 5 or so years ago, Panasonic did a similar move to a new off-shore billion dollar facility with its LCD production and then has been closing down most of its production ever since.
If older 30-40 y.o. (Made in Japan) reference Technics turntable still available used or even NOS then new (Made in Japan) models like SP-10R and SL1200 series will be available for a long time too. They made so many.
Some people are always too late when it come to a good stuff, who cares?
Technics returned even after they stopped turntable manufacturing completely.
Some of their cheaper new models like 1500 already made in Malaysia
I wonder how this new policy will play out in Japan itself, where there are more audio files per capita than maybe anywhere in the world that I have ever been. They still have stores that are reminiscent of New York City in the 1970s.You can buy an SP10R over the counter in some of their very large Department stores.
I hate to hear this. It seems the next generation 4runner from Toyota (currently made in Japan) will either be made in The US or Mexico. If it's Mexico I am out. I use to travel back and forth to Juarez and Saltillo to visit manufacturing plants for automotive. High absenteeism and terrible quality control. Now, Toyota, I'm sure, will have a tighter grip than many others...but still companies put up with a lot just to save on wages.
I am surprised no one else has remarked about it, but there was a time when "Made in Japan" was a common joke and a slur on the product, here in the US, probably for about 10-15 years following the end of WW2, when Japan was trying to get back on its economic feet and also rebuild its shattered infrastructure. Japanese imports to the US in those days were characterized by tiny cheap facsimiles of the statue of Liberty, made of pot metal. So, one needs to keep an open mind about quality and where it can come from.
I was born in '51. The "made in Japan" joke stayed around to the early 70's when Toyota & Honda started being imported, IME. Then too, much of Europe was destroyed and of course 2, big cities in Japan also. Plus their economies were ruined. They often didn't have the right tools or materials for quality IMO. But craftsmen are in every society. The difference usually comes down to the item they produce and how similar the product you ask them to produce is in their "wheelhouse". There is usually a learning curve.
I wonder if "Made In U.S.A." has the same reaction elsewhere....Although not exactly hi-fi Apple with iPods were not produced in the US but in China already in the early 2000s and yet they have sold millions of them.
Mark Levinson before he came out with the Red Rose scandal who produced his electronics? Yet many have bought those products.
We must resign ourselves to globalization, several audio electronics companies have their minds in the States or in Europe and produce in Asian countries; do we want to make a list?
Artemis, Japanese motorcycles (Honda and Kawasaki) made a mark for high quality and speed in the US by the early to mid 60s, which predated the influx of Datsuns and Toyotas that came in the late 60s/early 70s. By then”made in japan “ was no longer such a joke. Every guy wanted a 240Z. Basically, we are in agreement, give or take a few years.
The made in Japan tag is not only a printing tag, it shares the pride of the manufacturer. Something is fading out without it. Still smaller scale sales products will continue to carry that tag but become even more expensive. In the case of Technics they made their come back swirl and now they want to cash out.
The only place we've read about this is from a new poster who hasn't been back and who's posted the same claim on two forums. As to the tubestore with its diatribe, the owner is off the rails and what's printed there is not actually anything but a claim.
If this were true, why do all search results for the query as to Technics' plans lead to this topic and a similar one on audiokarma.
Why do people believe this is true based on an anonymous poster's claim???
That’s an entirely fair question. It’s very true I’m a nobody here. All I can say is I honestly just thought it was a piece of news about a storied brand that would be of interest and conversation so I shared it a couple places. It’s not true to say I haven’t been back. As you can tell from my follow-up, I’m not some troll trying to stir up peoples’ emotions. I don’t deeply care about the move myself, hence I’m not replying constantly to gin people up.
Also, you’re not alone, by now I too figured someone would have corroborated this from a conversation with a dealer. I repeat: what happened is I was told this by two separate senior sales staff from a Technics dealer in the US, then I contacted Technics (not the US office, they’re useless) directly via email and they confirmed. Anyone can check my work by talking to a dealer or Technics. If you do, please report back. It’s only fair if I’m going to be called out with suspicion.
I’m not sharing screenshots because I would rather you be skeptical or even call me a liar than create any risk of getting people in trouble at their jobs. “Identify who you are that ‘senior sales staff’ told you this.” Again, I’m nobody. Not an industry guy. Just someone who was navigating purchasing a 1200GR exactly when this news arrived to the dealer. They were forthright and relayed that information to me. I was surprised and asked follow up questions to them and to a Technics country office and the information I received was crystal clear. I don’t reward that by naming the dealer or staff or providing screenshots. It’s just not worth it to me to put them in that position. I’m confident in my sources and believe if you speak to a knowledgeable dealer or Technics you will find out I’m not just making this up. For lord’s sake, why would I?
@csgreene Hi, old chap. By now you’ve seen posters on the Hoffman forums corraborating my information from multiple dealers over the course of April and May.
I’ll take an apology any time. You can do it now, or you can wait, but it’s the only classy thing to do once you admit to yourself I’m not some clueless idiot and that you’re in fact the one who jumped to conclusions.
Hi,I’m french (sorry for my english) and new in your forum.I bought a SL1200 MK2 in 1989 and 32 years later for my 50th anniversary, i wanted to buy the new SL 1200 G-EGS.I waited 7 month and received it yesterday.What a suprise when i connect it and saw "made in Malaysia" behind it.https://zupimages.net/up/21/25/cazy.jpg
I don’t care the quality control and the quality is not here (i can show it).I’m so disappointed that I’m going to ask the seller for a trade-in (reprise) whatever it cost to me.My dream goes out !Do you want a Tag HEUER made in other country than Switzerland for example ?