Talon Khorus with no soundstage?


Recently I've been auditioning a system that consists of all Electrocompaniet components and Talon Khorus speakers.
The amplifiers are a pair of AW180MBs.

It seemed that the sound was residing inside speaker cabinets and did not go outside. It's like you place one part of orchestra or band inside one speaker cabinet and another part into another cabinet and let them play.

The rest of auditioned components are: EMC-1, EC4.7
I did not pay attention to interconnects and tweaks but if my eye doesn't lie I saw Nordost Valhalla as a speaker cable.

I'm not a pro in accoustics but the only thing I know that original soud wave travels to our ear before the reflected one. That's why I think that soundstage in %$16k speaker must be present even in the wrong room.

Can it be other components?
Please, share your thoughts.
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Showing 2 responses by chelillingworth

With so many great speakers out there I don't know why anyone would waste their time wasting the Talon. The only thing I noticed about how "fast" they are is the speed with which the price on the net dropped from $15000 to under $5000.
This is a speaker that is fundamentally flawed, the midrange is reticent making and the highs unrevealing it is not a coherent speaker. I have heard the X version and heard no improvement except for some rather gaudy cosmetic ecroutements.
It seems a little dishonest to blame such gross flaws in soundstaging on what is a very capable preamp from EC, perhaps to increase the reputation of a product you do sell at the expense of one that you don't.
I also question a company that say its speakers need 300 hours of breaking in, do you realize that is 125 days of continous high volume play. For a $16000 or a $160 speaker this is a completely unreasonable form of torture to make a customer suffer through especially when the result fall well short of Nirvana and after the cops have been over every night for four months. I suppose they realized this finally and chopped the last zero off, an easier sell?
DML1 the above poster said it well "Trust your ears!" if it sounds like $@#* it probably is $%@# or if it needs 300(0) hours of breakin, a perfect room, a paricular pre, 16 grand and ears of lead then count me out.
Good math and bad typing on my part "3000 hrs of break in equals 125 days.

Mr. Farnsworth, I would question your assumption that all of this negative feedback is a good sign. It certainly hasn't raised their stock on the used market. There was someone recently begging for anyone to bid his $4200 reserve to unload his talons, 70% off retail. There were very legitimate problems sonically with the speaker and the back door selling dropped the price to a point where many customers had to take a big loss to get out of a speaker that they couldn't live with. As I said earlier the expectation to have the customer break these things in for 3000hrs is unreasonable and dare I say questionable.
As to the X, I heard it at the Stereophile show. Yes I know that is a compromising situation for speakers but many did a good job. The X's were miserable. Perhaps at a price commensurate with their perfomance they may get some positive buzz.