Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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I propose that anyone on this thread who calls another person "troll" be "officially" pronounced a "troll".
glupson - if you are so naive and gullible not to know what I mean by rich audiophile I ain’t going to tell you. Since I was addressing Lizzie when I made that remark why don’t you ask her?

Never wise up a chump or give a sucker an even break.
prof,

Michael Green is right, unless we all really do it we do not know how it is. How do you think it would be if everyone on this thread started "walking"? If each person participating actually did a few things from the tuning textbook. I suspect that the magic would do some moyamoya trick and all of a sudden we would all be credible after just a few moments. No more "trolls", only "walkers". If there is a wonderful difference, we report it. If there is no difference, we report it. If most of the people say there was no difference, well, it was not them who asked people to :"walk". Whoooosh, no more tuning argument. Or, if everybody hears improvement, tuning becomes "the thing".

For all the fairness, and avoidance of any conflict of interest, equipment used should not be Michael Green brand, but anything else.

It really should not be that hard. Some wood, a screwdriver, electronics with expired warranties (so not to make it void), and a couple of hours. Really, why are we not doing it?