synergistic research orange blue fuse direction.


Hi, I have two 611s, one 302 and one 452 McIntosh amps, and I just purchased three Synergistic Research (SR) Orange fuses. I also received one SR Blue fuse free with the purchase of the SR blue receptacle. Would someone advise me with some specificity on the directional installation of the Blue and Orange fuse. Again all the amps are McIntosh.

Thanks.
Guy
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George should have no problem relaxing. Just needs to close his eyes. His ears it appears have been closed for years.
Actually the point is that any way you look at it there’s a direction.

If you put your fuse on the incoming signal, the field across the fuse will change from +120v to -120v every cycle


It does help to look at it correctly however. A 120v circuit is not 120+/120- every cycle. That would be 240v. Do the math.

Are they saying that ALL the fuse locations in a power amp are only passing current in one direction? That seems really unlikely.


So let me get this straight. To you it seems more likely the signal is going both directions all the time and at once? Fascinating.
@millercarbon I read your explanation twice, which is two times more than it deserves, and in those two readings I could not find a hint of an answer to the simple question fistatus1 posted. Just nonsense. And then when you finally do try to actually answer you go completely off the rails and talk about converting to DC - ignoring the fact that the majority of fuses are on the incoming AC line, not on the rectified and filtered DC. 


Yeah, that's a problem all right. But the thing is, you write for an audience. That means making a choice. You can write for an audience of absolutely know-nothings. But this takes forever. Literally. Or you can write for a certain level of technical knowledge. This inevitably leaves out some while being more efficient for others.

Don't know what to tell you except, maybe read a few more times, study the terms, learn a lot more.  Because I can assure you its anything but off the rails. Spoon feeding now will only weaken us both. And I don't know about you but I have far too much respect for us both to do that.
The only thing funny is people still in denial over what's long since been settled. Like decades gone by. I mean let me show you how behind the times luddite stupid it is. "So you're telling me that electronic chip is gonna squirt fuel straight into the engine? And its gonna know to do this how? No way. Fuel injection is snake oil! Now carbs, distributor, that might actually work." Half a century out of date. That's all.

All Synergistic comes with a 30 day return guarantee. You won't need it. Won't need to burn in for weeks either. It will sound good right out of the box. Better later. But good? Right from the very beginning.


cheeg:
OK, I’ve been waiting for someone else to ask the obvious “dumb” question, but since none of you are volunteering, here goes: if it’s an AC signal, why does the directionality matter?


The idea being, since its AC its alternating, back and forth, forth and back, what's the diff? That about it? In a nutshell?

Okay so well first off in a house wired 120v the panel has 240v coming in with the breakers on the left connected to one 120v leg, the breakers on the right connected to the other 120v leg, and the 240v breakers taking up two spaces because they connect to both legs.
 
Got it? Okay. So even taking the back and forth point of view they are not all the same. One swings one way. One swings the other. (As Seinfeld might add, "Not that there's anything wrong with that.")

But what about 240v? What about the (admittedly rare) systems like mine where 240v steps down to 120v? There is no "leg" with a transformer. 

Well the answer is even then the power coming in one wire is positive, the other ground or negative. In any case the AC coming into all components, the first thing it does is go through a transformer (to get whatever voltage the component uses) then to some diode rectifiers and then to some power supply caps. Because all components, even though plugged into AC, they all run on DC. But you knew that, right? ;)

So there's your flow.
georgehifi says 'orange fuse bad.' So I guess TDS really is a thing after all.

But enough of that. Seriously. Enough. Go away!


OP has a serious question:
The S and R on the fuse is located on one end of the fuse. So correct me if I am wrong it is not the vertical rotation of the fuse outside the fuse  receptacle and reinsertion of the fuse,  but the  rotation of the fuse on the horizontal plane while the fuse is in the holder.  Please advise.

The standard with Synergistic is the signal and the writing go the same direction. There's a little round drop of graphene or whatever the secret sauce is, but it doesn't matter which way you rotate that, only flipping the fuse 180 matters. So yeah you had it wrong and now you are corrected. 
The difference is not subtle, not at all. In my amp, because of where it goes its impossible to tell which way current goes anyway. So 50/50, stuck it in. Right away noticed big improvement, yet it just did not sound right. Deeper, wider, more dynamic, but somehow messed up. Hard to describe. It got better but within a few minutes I knew it was wrong. Switched direction, night and day.

To think there are people unable to hear such obvious differences, well it just boggles my mind. Especially to then brag to the world: Hey world! I’m deaf! Deaf as a doorknob! And yet, there they go. We should set up a foundation, raise some money, see if we can find a cure.

Meantime listen, flip, listen. You will hear it. Assuming of course you’re not the doorknob.