Synergistic Red Fuse ...


I installed a SR RED Quantum fuse in my ARC REF-3 preamp a few days ago, replacing an older high end fuse. Uhh ... for a hundred bucks, this little baby is well worth the cost. There was an immediate improvement upon installation, but now that its broken in (yes, no kidding), its quite remarkable. A tightening of the focus, a more solid image, and most important of all for my tastes, a deeper appreciation for the organic sound of the instruments. Damn! ... cellos sound great! Much improved attack on pianos. More humanistic on vocals. Bowed bass goes down forever. Next move? .... I'm doing the entire system with these fuses. One at a time though just to gauge the improvement in each piece of equipment. The REF-75se comes next. I'll report the results as the progression takes place. Stay tuned ...

Any comments from anyone else who has tried these fuses?
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Wow. What rhetoric. 
I have invested in reference level audio equipment and am aware the fuses therein,as in other electrical products,are there to "protect the equipment". The parameters of that protection are well known to the designers. The designers of products at the level of Spectral Audio (a fairly well respected brand) are definitely looking to maximize sound quality-that is the basis of our high quality (high end) equipment, and they seem to take extreme engineering design,innovation and ever improving parts quality to the utmost levels to produce competitive gear. So,can we not assume they would want to supply a power cord, and fuses, that would best show off their products --i.e. "allow" them to operate at their maximum level?
In younger days I would have 'logically' thought so. However, the utterly basic power cords supplied with some of the very best reviewed equipment are certainly not worthy of the task. My experimentation (and now ownership) with all of the top of the line MIT Oracle p/c's has clearly proved to me my 'logic' was incorrect. It has proven continuously, with analogue and digital equipment, that "stock" power cords are inappropriate on serious equipment. I have not experimented with fuses,so far, as the cost of failure of any fuse has been an unacceptable risk. I am now retired and don't have the funds to replace the reference level equipment that provides me such enjoyment. I have found vast improvements in experimenting with ac power supply isolation and conditioning and would very much like to further optimize the sound I obtain. However, when I compare the websites of the vaunted "hi-fi fuses" herein, with the website for example of "LITTELFUSE"; I am more impressed with the engineering,research,quality control,pride of performance-and willingness to stand behind their products with very detailed data shown by LITTELFUSE.   How do I determine the "hi-fi marketed" fuses will perform similarly?  Most sincerely,long time member and avid enthusiast of musical reproduction, Peter.
Fascinating. From a quick review it sounds like "Labtec" probably has good ears,musical appreciation and a good sense of reality and honesty. For those hard of hearing 78 year olds, with nothing else to do, I imagine this thread is fun. But I hope you've got enough $$ put away, and a well developed sense of ethics, so that this thread is all just in GOOD FUN : )  , you don't need to sell s**t to make your life satisfying.
I figure you're all somewhat like the old British "Carry On" gang. In this case just carrying on with a very weird sense of humor. 
Actaually, this group reminds me of comments young friends used to mention when they were on acid, LSD. Being quite satisfied with the reality I was experiencing I never tried the LSD and never had the experience(s) they had. Does anyone think I missed anything,really.. Aha, that's the secret of this thread-it's just not about real reality; it's about that high flying LSD variety of realities. Everyone has their own; and no one van tell them they didn't have it. Ta da. Eureka. Wunderbar. Let's break out those "magic dots" while we're having a trip. Put them on walls,or equipment or anywhere that "turns you on""" (and let's hope the equipment doesn't get a "buzzz";  that would be a downer
Charlatans and snake oil salesman must be maintaining this thread.
The claims being made "sounds like out of phase" are nonsensical.
"Consumer Fraud"...now that's MUSIC to my ears. At 66,with 50 years of record collecting  excellent gear,and wise to this hobby, I detest "charlatans" and "snake oil" salesman. 
I'm with you wolf, details schmeatails. Some guy on here is even
"biasing" his fuse. I think it's a case of the "looney tunes bin  "calling 'stridently' - but with a little to much texture--and a 'not quite right' horn-ey sound. 
UNBELIEVABLE!  This "Synergistic"  fuse company selling products so poorly manufactured----- they can't even get the fuse rating right !
 High quality fuse manufacturers such as BUSSMANN  and  LITTELFUSE ,who supply to high tech industries, would be bankrupted with claims. Charlatans and snake oil peddlars should be asshamed of themselves.......
I like the comment by the 'gentle joker' who has switched to Class A fuses.Not.
 Probably buys regular fuses from reputable,responsible companies like BUSSMAN or LITTLEFUSE.
 Hopefully anyone reading this thread looking for serious information realizes
the Synergistic Fuse = nonsense . Schills,charatans and 'snake oil' purveyors seem to delight,sadly, in bull shite. 
I think Thomas Foolery or 'little Johnny' would like to hang out with
the endless liars,about Synergistic  (crap)fuses ,on this post. Thomas would enjoy the foolery; and little Johnny would chime in with 'it shows you're thinking- idiotic thoughts--but thinking nonetheless.
Dear mac. How nice the company says it replace your blown fuse. And why shouldn't they? The profit margin is so "out of this world" that if they provide 1/2 dozen they're still basking in profit
Far more important  -  who's going to bear the expense of repairing your precious equipment if the fuse fails to late?? If production is sloppy enough to blow to early; my friend Reason says it's sloppy enough to blow to late. Where I'm from, when we see a grown man doing something foolish, we don't wish them good luck; instead simply,wise up.
oregonpapa is smokin some more of his "special blend"--probably
the most valuable component in his listening arsenal.
And the poster trying to say 2 manufacturers recommended these junk
fuses has backed off promptly when asked for clarification.
Again, it's shameful that some unconscionable types, charlatans,snake oil salesman
continue pushing bull shite
Synergistic fuses are significantly inferior to BUSSMAN and LITTELFUSE products; from my investigations. They are not even reliably rated! Shocking potential...
Results revealed by a tester...."  I've tested these (SR Black) and found these claims to be nonsense, even while providing the weeks of break-in (!). In fact, after my little comparison to the Littelfuse (and other generally stock fuses) products I've used for years, I discovered an SR Black had been left in my amp for months, which I replaced with the original  Littelfuse with zero change in tone. Try asking anybody how these little graphene enhanced seriously overpriced tiny wire devices actually work (magically coat the electrons with Special Sauce?) and prepare for scorn. The SR business model seems to be "money paid equals results experienced" even when the products are laughably unnecessary.
Wolf,I'm with you about the Synergistic Red Fuse and Synergistic Quantum Black Fuse products. 
." This may be off topic, but I was just thinking about how hard it must be for the people who manufacture and sell actual snake oil."
I also think psychiatric help will one day be in order when their minds become clouded by their own web..." Oh, what a tangled web we weave..when first we practice to deceive." Walter Scott.
Yea grannyring,just like the screws that hold the whole thing together--just as essential as these BS parts mentioned herein. 
Grannyring -- do you mean the fuse holder;;; or the very sensitive soul holding the fuse??
Jim, I think to a degree we have.
Thankfully, knowledgeable,perceptive and Honest Audiophiles have clarified for all that this 'talk' or should I say "cheap promotion" of Synergistic Red fuses and Synergistic Quantum Black fuses was the spewing of "nonsense" (childish and idiotic nonsense) from the beginning.  geogelofi analysed it all very nicely and in an summed it up it very succinctly, in an intelligent and balanced comment -- " I just don't get shysters, preaching this sort of voodoo".
Cheers .................... 
Re charlesdad latest comment ;
" a multitude of happy users of upgraded fuses"
---not quite accurate that--- omits all complaints...
Thankfully,
knowledgeable,perceptive and Honest Audiophiles have clarifie that this 'talk' or should I say "cheap promotion" of Synergistic Red fuses and Synergistic Quantum Black fuses was the spewing of "nonsense"  from the beginning.  geogelofi analysed it all very nicely and summed it up it very succinctly, in an intelligent and balanced comment --
" I just don't get shysters, preaching this sort of voodoo". 

One of the most appropriate comments I've read about the SR (Synergistic Research) Red Quantum Fuse and Black Quantum Fuse discussion (or should it be called blatant promotion?)--
" I will continue to question fraudulent imaginary nonsensical products as insulting to the professional designers who do the actual good work , and who don’t need to compromise their integrity with inexplicable pseudo tweaks to make a buck. "  from wolf_garcia. 
Honesty is so refreshing in this thread.
Interesting butler. How did you change the fuse on the 
Sony HAP-Z1ES. What value did you use?
An interesting comment:
"Oregonpapa, continuing to promote these things with silly nonsense is like continuing to try to ride a dead horse"
Or,should one say "a dead parrot"???  
Obviously anyone 'touting' theses Synergistic Red Quantum (or black) fuses has never taken a look at all the wiring 'after the fuse' - within the device. If they did they'd see all sorts of wire connecting various items. No reputable manufactures I'm aware of,promote their products for the "directionality of the wiring".. That moots the point about the "value" of the fuse directionality. So I remain aligned with the Healthy Skeptic-wolf_garcia - when he says
" the promotion of a nonsensical, inexplicable, expensive and utterly useless fuse "upgrade" will garner my ire as long as this thread continues".
Others have had similar comments; thanks to common sense.
Thanks jond and also to mribob. 
Based on your comments I'm sure I'd also enjoy
listening to music with Frank. Cheers to the music.
(Actually I think perhaps ABBA says it better than I).
Interesting procedure oregonpapa;
" I changes the fuses one at a time just to be able to grade the improvement each one made. I started out with the amp thinking that it would affect the signal from everything that came before it."  Must certainly agree with you there.....
Chris Connacker of the Computer Audiophile seems to 'strongly' 
agree with wolf_garcia regarding the use of speaking out --(and to be clear Chris was not talking about SR fuses- it's a general comment)  " It's just as disappointing to see the unaware spend hard-earned money on such an upgrade. This type of thing happens across all industries. It's the nature of capitalism and consumerism. Fortunately, we are in the golden age of the Internet, where people can freely publish opinions about products without any trouble."
Geoffkait it seems you agree with the theory-
if you can't attack the argument simply attack the person- naturally..
Quoting Oregonpapa:
" They don't bother me a twit ... not a twit. After spending over 50 years in commissioned sales my skin is about a foot thick. I eat rejection for breakfast and come back at lunch and dinner for more."
Put another way:
--That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.  Now don't annoy me with the facts.--


Mac48025, the answer to your question as to why the SR Red and Black Quantum fuses
can't improve the sound of a component :--- as previously stated in this thread-
"Obviously anyone 'touting' theses Synergistic Red Quantum (or black) fuses has never taken a look at all the wiring 'after the fuse' - within the device. If they did they'd see all sorts of Pieces of wire, longer than the fuse, connecting various items."  As wolf_garcia stated; if your fuse is old simply replacing it with a new one will give the same benefit as an SR fuse.
Same for highly touted "benefit" of the directionality of said fuses.
No reputable manufacturer (I'm aware of)  of components these fuses are suggested for, promote their products for the "directionality of the wiring".. That moots the point about the "value" of the fuse directionality, again because of the various wires following the fuse.
So I remain aligned with the Healthy Skeptic-wolf_garcia - when he says 

" the promotion of a nonsensical, inexplicable, expensive and utterly useless fuse "upgrade" will garner my ire as long as this thread continues".

Particularly with the "unending 'incremental' upgrades" type of changes (Chris Connaker referred to such types of changes " I've been disappointed in the past to learn of manufacturers who release "Mark II" of a product only because a single internal component of the original version is no longer available. It's just as disappointing to see the unaware spend hard-earned money on such an upgrade." ; rather nicely put I feel. See it here' in the first paragraph. - http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/727-berkeley-audio-design-alpha-dac-reference-series-2-rev...
I’m reminded of an intelligent observation:perhaps by Einstein or Orwell:
"Anyone who thinks they understand (sic) the intention of this thread - most
certainly has absolutely no idea what’s going on".

Showed my 26 year old son some of this threads -
for fun,of course. His only comment was these guys 
definitely need another drink.Time for my B&B. Cheers
Hey wolf - it's definitely Benedictine and Brandy.
But having Bandy over certainly provides a whole
new dimension to listening pleasure.
Both the above are so far above fuse considerations.
I agree regarding vibrations, in fact I appreciates all the internal vibrations the music provides.
Let's get down to hard fact. 
It's all about "JIGGLING ATOMS" per Richard Feynman.
I'll drink to that.

"The absolute truths can come from anyone".

The Estonian composer Arvo Part had a 'breakthrough" moment
when one snowy morning he asked a street cleaner
"What should a composer do?"
The wise old street cleaner said simply
"Love every note"

Cheers to him-most humbly
Well geoffkait you certainly have a great brand of morning coffee.

I think you just hit see-sharp.
Cheers
Geoffkait,bravo for your refreshing and honest comments about this utter nonsense
regarding the fabricated and imaginary benefits of the Synergistic Research SR Red Quantum Fuse and SR Black Quantum Fuse (you gotta love that "Quantum" part -- as if these 
fuses provided a "magic" entry to let's say "Quantum Physics" or "Quantum Particles"
; you know something that elevates them to the level of the much prized-but- very elusive 
"Unobtaniun" ((available on Ebay and Amazon- limited quantities,order now,once stocks are gone cannot be replaced)) <<. I thinks this discussion should expand to include " Quantum Energy or Zero-Point Field " another 'f ass cinating" topic; and of course the ever elusive "Quantum Moment"--which I'm sure many of those in this thread have an abundance of..