These are both outdated; do not suppoer HDMI v1.3. The Sunfure unit has been replaced by the TGR-401 and the B&K by the AVR-707. Both can be found on line for about $3K. If money concerns are driving you to these units I suggest looking at a new Onkyo 906 class AVR or the Yamaha 3900 series - both which are probably in the same price class as the AVR's you are asking about but offer all the latest bells and whistles. If you must have an audiophile unit, I suggest waiting for the Cambridge Audio Azur 600R Version 2, which is very refined, has all the latest stuff and is coming out any day now. Retail $1799. Spearit Audio is a good place to look for Cambridge Audio gear and news.