Subwoofer in the corner? Forget about it


Since installing new horn speakers, I have been learning a little about extracting their best performance. They require some effort and knowledge to get right - and the effort is the easy part.

Following "common wisdom", I placed the sub in the left corner, to the rear and outside of the left main speaker. The result was a disaster.

Boomy, one note bass, little tone and texture, very uneven response at different locations in the room, and no musical connection. This wasn't good enough for screening reruns of "Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo" on a HT set-up.

I repositioned the sub to the midpoint of the right-side wall. Now, it is a little forward and to the side of the right main speaker. Initial results are promising: Lower bass output (expected going from 3 corner boundaries to 2 wall/floor boundaries), coupled with musical LF, toneful and engaging. The difference between just moving alot of air and making proper musical bass is huge.

Here are two articles I found interesting:

http://www.harman.com/wp/pdf/multsubs.pdf
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/setup/loudspeakers/SubwooferplacementP1.php

both use models and measurements to confirm my listening experience - corner loading the sub is loud and rough, compared with other locations. And multiple subs are smoother than a single sub. Now, I just have to bite the bullet and make room for another refrigerator sized horn sub in my listening room.

scott

Listening room: 15' x 18', suspended wood floor
Music used to evaluate sound:
Rachmaninoff, piano concerto 2
Astor Piazolla, Adios Ninos
Saint Saens, organ symphony 3
Rodrigo, concierto de Aranjuez
Doctor John, Duke elegant
Joe Pass, Portraits of duke Elington
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Showing 2 responses by rauliruegas

Dear Cmpromo: I think that the problem that you have with that single Rel subwoofer is that you were using like a bass reinforcement not like an integrated part of your speaker system and that you only use one unit instead of two.

Please read this subwoofer links, I think that can help us to understand the whole subwoofer concept and its heavy advantages:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&27&4#27

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&31&4#31

Btw, Sgr: you can try with your Revel subs what is on those links. It could be interesting what you could have about.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Scott: In my case I agree with you about subs on the corner.

But this subject depends on each room and other issues like: sub design ( reflex, sealed, etc ), crossover points, volume/gain, etc..

The integration of subs to any room is a long test of trial and error but is wortwhile to take that time to do it.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.