Sub woofer cable help please...


Sub cable

I recently purchased a single sub woofer cable, but I have two outputs out of my preamplifier. I am ok going into my subs single input but coming out of the preamp is an issue. I have two female RCA outs of my pre amp and I need a y adapter with two male and one female. Do you know where I might find one or any suggestions? As it stands now I can plug it in but only to the left or right output from preamplifier. And then into the one input on the sub. Thank you...
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I agree with Mofimadness. In fact, I am doing the exact same thing with my rig. If youy check some of my threads, you can see some of the technical issues that I had to overcome, but some of these issues could be unique to my set up.

By way of quick summary, I have an ARC Ref 3 pre which has two main outputs. Main 1 connects to my power amp. Main 2 connects to my self powered sub. It appears that your situation may be a little simplier than mine because it looks like you're working entirely with SE/RCA hook ups. In my case, one hook up was SE and the other balanced.

Now . . . as Mofi suggested, check with your preamp manufacturer to see if you can use a Y connector to sum the left and right channels for the preamp output feeding the sub. If not, you will need a crossover to do that for you. One problem I had, which again may be unique to my set up, was that I had to show my Ref 3 a combined load that was not less than 20K Ohms. The problem was the two loads (i.e., Main 1 - amp and Main 2 - sub) that I presented to my Ref 3 summed to be less than 20K Ohms. So I had to purchase a custom made impedance buffer that summed the Main 2 channels and raised the load presented to the Ref 3 to make everything work properly.

So . . . the take-away from this post is: (1) see if you can sum the channels into mono for the sub with a Y adapter. If not, look into using a cross-over that will sum the channels into mono for the sub, but leave the other output in stereo for your fronts. (2) make sure you don't overload your preamp by presenting too low a combined load. In both cases, discuss these issues with your preamp manufacturer.

BTW: just a suggestion, before I switched over to the custom impedance buffer, I used to sum my Main 2 outputs with a Paradigm X-30 controller. Check the Paradigm listing here on A'gon. The X-30s come up for sale from time to time and sell for roughly $150, plus or minus. The X-30 will sum your channels without "shorting" your preamp, and also help fine tune blending your sub with your fronts by giving you the flexibility to adjust LF rolloff, loudness and phase. FWIW

Good luck and let us know how you nake out.
Glad to help. Although I doubt you will have to deal with the preamp loading issue that I had, just in case, the formula is:

L1 x L2/L1 + L2 + CI (Combined Impedance)

L1 = Main 1 load impedance
L2 = Main 2 Load impedance

So, for example, if L1 is 300K Ohms and L2 is 20K Ohms, CI = 300K x 20K/320K, or 18.75K Ohms. In my post above, I mentioned that the Ref 3 pre should NOT be presented with a load that presents LESS than 20K Ohms. Therefore, in my case, because the recommended load should not be less than 20K Ohms, the Reg 3 would be overloaded because the CI is only 18.75K Ohms. Overloading my Ref 3 could result in denigrated sonics and could prematurely age the tubes. FWIW
Correction: In my post above, I wrote the formula to compute Combined Impedance is:

L1 x L2/L1 + L2 + CI (Combined Impedance). I should have used an equal sign in the formula, sorry. As corrected:

(L1 x L2)/(L1 + L2) = CI (Combined Impedance)