Stillpoints or Audio Points, has anyone compared

I'm not sure it's fair to compare Stillpoints to Audiopoints because of the cost difference. The Sistrum SP-1, made by Audiopoints, is about the same price as the Stillpoints. The Stillpoints provided some improvement, but the SP-1 was clearly better in my system. I think it's best to experiment with each component and vibration product.

A Sistrum dealer contacted me after my post about still using a lead platform under my Berning amp. He suggested Sistrum discs under the amp, and that I need to give it 4 to 7 days to work. I don't know about that, maybe I'll try that sometime, but right now a lead platform works best under that specific component. I don't need to understand all the science, I try it in the system and if it sounds better it stays, but I'm convinced that no one product works best in every situation.

I have had both the latest Stillpoints with risers and the Audiopoints Sistrum SP-1 platform in my system recently. It seems more valid to do this comparison as both products sell for about the same price.

I found the Stillpoints to be a nice improvement. They brought more clarity and focus to the music, and I heard individual instruments better. I originally used the Stillpoints with a Berning ZH270 amp and I found them to perform as advertised.

The Sistrum SP-1 platform made a much bigger difference in my system. It gave me more of everything! I heard more detail, space, depth and width, and I had a window in to the music that I hadn't heard before.

The differences between the products were the same for both my Simaudio I3 integrated, and my transport and dac. For whatever reason, I find that my Berning amp sounds best on (dare I say it) an 80 pound lead platform, but the Sistrum bettered both the lead and the Stillpoints on all other components.

I tried both the Stillpoints and Sistrum on several components and, other than on the Berning, my results were the same. The Stillpoints offered some improvement, but the Sistrum took that improvement to another level. YMMV

warren, I'm not sure there is one light to see. I'm with Jayboard when he says he is suspicious of pure doctrine in hifi. Every system, and every set of ears are different. I know some people have returned the Audiopoints because they don't work for them. The best thing to do is to try several of these kinds of products with a return option.

Frankly, I was hesitant to try the Sistrums because I'm uncomfortable with the way some of

Tom, theaudiotweak, came over today and brought some discs to use between the Sistrums and my wood shelf. He said it would make a big difference and it did. I have used the discs between the components and the Sistrum so not to scratch the gear, but I didn't think discs under the SP-1s would matter much. Tom said it would make a big difference on a wood shelf for several reasons that went over my head--all I care about is does it sound better.

I must admit the music was mor focused withbetter bass. It's hard to imagine that a few little discs could make the system sound better but it did allow me to hear more in to the music.

Again, one size fits all doesn't work, but I would strongly recommend trying these in your system, and, one of these days I might try the Sistrums and discs under my Berning and see what happens.

Using the discs is not a daylight and dark difference, but there is a difference. If you can squeeze out a little more detail and clarity for less than the cost of going to a good restaurant, it's an upgrade worth doing.

I'm the guy who always makes fun of these kind of tweaks, and in a few days I will take the discs out and see if I hear a difference. Maybe it was the power of suggestion or it was what I wanted to hear and I got caught up in the excitement, or maybe I heard what I heard. I'll repeat the process later in the week and let you know.