stereo system evaluation--objective or subjective


is there a valid objective approach for evaluating the sound quality of stereo systems, or is it purely a matter of taste ?
mrtennis

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Stereophile has technical measurements to go along with their subjective reviews... they've had it for years. And it's interesting that the reviewer's subjective views don't always align well with the objective measurements.

Let's face it, there are just too many variables. The component under review is part of a system where many complex interactions take place. When the component is sent for measurements it is not part of the same system (being measured on the bench with the technician's test equipment).

Regardless of that, if you know how to interpret the data it will provide some useful insight into the performance of the component under scrutiny.

As an audio reviewer, my particular publication does not have the facility to provide test data. So to double-check my own impressions I have two different reference systems in my home. That way I can try the review gear in both systems (with different associated gear) and see what characteristics remain constant... and also see if any outliers pop up. Often times I find that many of the sonic characteristics of the component remain constant from one system to the other... though there have been exceptions.

For whatever reason I find that system cables are the most unpredictable of my components when going from one system to the other and for me are more difficult to pin down and review than the basic hardware like amps, preamps, and DACs.

Still, I know I can depend on certain cables to do specific things and I can use them to change the tonality of a system more to my liking... kind of like an equalizer. And I'm aware that many audiophiles view system cables as "tone controls."

The simple answer is that there are entirely too many variables to find a system of quality assessment that would satisfy every listener. In my own small group of audio friends their taste in sound is all over the map and runs the gamut from the accurate and precise to the mellow and ill-focused. It seems that a lot of folks focus on different areas of performance that are important to them at the expense of other parameters.

I personally strive for neutral and natural and try to get the most detail possible without losing sight of musicality. And even this description will mean different things to different people.

Also, if you had a system that measured flat +/- 0.5dB 20Hz to 20kHz it would sound unbearably bright and unlistenable to the vast majority of audiophiles and music lovers. So maybe the thing to pursue is which curve or amount of high frequency roll off starting at what frequency would provide the ideal musical sonic balance to the highest percentage of listeners??? We can save matters of dynamic compression, transient speed, and smoothness and transparency for another time.

Frank A
Kijanki,

Yes, well, by the time the "Live Sound" in the concert hall reaches the listeners in the audience the high frequencies are definitely rolled off. And they are rolled off more in some concert halls than others... so which concert hall (or amount of hf roll-off would you pick?).
Kijanki, I guarantee that if you try to EQ your system so that it's flat out to 20kHz at your listening position it will sound VERY BRIGHT and you won't like it...

Don't believe me? Simply try it and see...
"Herding Cats," yes Nonoise, that's an excellent analogy and I dare say, "poetic" as it applies to audiophilia.
Kijanki, I think you just want to argue with me for the sake of arguing so this will be my last reply to this thread. The simple truth is that although many speakers are reported to have highs flat to 20kHz, in actual use in an actual listening room the sound will be decidedly rolled off at that frequency by the time it bounces off walls, carpet and furniture, and goes through door openings. This, not to mention that unless the tweeters are aimed directly at the listener you're not going to get anywhere near flat 20kHz response.

Plus I wouldn't call the Ratshack meter anywhere near precise.

But hey, it's your right to believe what you want to believe. I just don't happen to agree with you.