Stage III Concepts Cables - Any Advice/Feedback/Thoughts is deeply appreciated.


I have a mixed loom of Stage III Concepts Cables on loan to me from a local dealer and need some help.  
There is hardly any user/owner/member/end used type of info out there so I wanted to reach out. 

Here is what I am demoing now and below is the why...

Stage III Concepts GRYPHON XLR 1.5m Interconnects   
Stage III Concepts MAGNUS 3.0m Speaker Cables
Stage III Concepts MINOTAUR 2.0m Power Cable
Stage III Concepts KRAKEN 1.5m Power Cable

Here is the why:

I received my new Magico S5 MK II Speakers 2 weeks ago upgraded from the original S5's.  
I wanted to upgrade my pre and amp but was waiting to hear my new S5 MK II's with my present gear first. 

Magico S5 MK II Speakers
Pass Labs X250.8 amp
Simaudio Moon Evolution P-8 pre
Bricasti M1SE w/built in ethernet media player
SGC sonicTransporter ethernet Roon server w/Uptone Audio JS-2 LPS
Kubala-Sosna Emotion Full Loom 

I loved my new speakers and so sold both my Pass X250.8 amp and my Simaudio P8 pre.
I bought Pass Labs XA-160.8 Monoblocks and was driving them direct with my Bricasti M1SE as pre/dac.

I was happy and while looking for a pre I stumbled into a local guy that had a Soulution 530 Integrated.
I thought you know what lets try it and if I like it then I will sell or trade my Pass mono's for a pre or use 530's preouts.

To make a long story longer I put it in my system and low and behold I like the Pass amps better. Maybe not a huge surprise as Pass gear is killer but then I phoned the local Soulution dealer to pick he brain. 

He told me the Pass amps should not sound better with S5 MK II's and it was due to the match of my Kubala-Sosna cables which work great with Pass, ARC, Ayre, Krell, etc. but Soulution is a different animal and needs a different cable. .
I thought OK here we go... Here comes the big old cable sales pitch but to be fair I called him. So I listened.

He loaned me the cables I have listed above to prove what he was saying was true.

You know what happened. Low and behold he was 100% right and they blew my mind. No snake oil but real results.  

They sound insane and actually really good with my Pass amps too but the match with Soulution is breath taking...

Now I see why the Soulution amps are darn expensive. They should recommended cables like Spectral and MIT does.  

So with so little info out there I wanted to ask for you guys for any and feedback, or opinions.

It is really expensive stuff and sure there is some savings because some is former gen cables and they are demo's but still its really expensive stuff so I just was hoping I could get some more info from you folks.

Sorry for long write up but wanted to share my thoughts and my situation and ask for some help on these.

Thanks 
       





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Wire (interconnects, power cords, speaker cables, etc) are every bit as much a system component as the traditionally considered main components like amps and speakers. Equally important.

Also equally important: room treatment, vibration control (cones, shelves), and tweaks- demagnetizers, anti-static sprays, cable elevators, electrical connection cleaners and conditioners. Equally important.

Also equally important: room treatment, vibration control (cones, shelves), contact cleaners and conditioners, and "tweaks" like demagnetizers, anti-static spray, cable elevators, etc.

Obviously not all these things are created equal any more than all amps or speakers are. But the best of these will take your system to levels simply unreachable with any combination of major components.

To take just one example, $500 of Synergistic Research HFTs stuck on the walls, just that one little thing, will drop the noise floor and reduce grain and improve image focus and palpable presence more than just about anything you could get from any one component, and a whole lot more economically. Frankly the character of the improvement isn't even anything other components are even capable of addressing. Its the room! All the components can do is stir up the air. Room treatments like HFTs address that problem directly.

I'm unfamiliar with any of the components you have or are considering. I'm very familiar however with things like HFT, ECT, cable elevators, Cones and Shelves. I have yet to see the case where the most cost effective system improvement didn't involve using one or more of these. In like 30 years of looking.

Other than that, when it comes to the wire you asked about I would say do yourself a favor. Take whatever you're thinking of spending on your top candidate. Cut it in half. Then go see what Synergistic Research wire hits that price point. Throw a dart. Whatever. Just give it a listen. 

In fact, come to think of it, xoticspeed has a pair of Resolution Reference MkII interconnects for sale https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9ca72-synergistic-research-resolution-reference-mkii-interconne... I just bought a longer set of these same interconnects from him and despite their being from the mid-1990's Synergistic was so far ahead of everyone else back then that they are still true reference level quality even today. And a heck of a lot cheaper than what you're looking at. Even if they are not as good as what you're considering, for the difference in price you could throw up some HFTs and more, and then for sure be way ahead. That's the way to play the game: use all the players!