Springs under turntable


I picked up a set of springs for $35 on Amazon. I intended to use them under a preamp but one thing led to another and I tried them under the turntable. Now, this is no mean feat. It’s a Garrard 401 in a 60pound 50mm slate plinth. The spring device is interesting. It’s sold under the Nobsound brand and is made up of two 45mm wide solid billets of aluminum endcaps with recesses to fit up to seven small springs. It’s very well made. You can add or remove springs depending on the weight distribution. I had to do this with a level and it only took a few minutes. They look good. I did not fit them for floor isolation as I have concrete. I played a few tracks before fitting, and played the same tracks after fitting. Improvement in bass definition, speed, air, inner detail, more space around instruments, nicer timbre and color. Pleasant surprise for little money.
Previewnoromance
Cleeds, yes I read tea leaves but most importantly systems like mine are obviously very rare at this point. Few understand the basic issues involved so I am left waving the flag by myself. Which is ok by me. Anyone can ridicule me all they want. Until they have lived with a system like mine they have no idea. Now, people are always bragging about how great their systems are. La De Da. I could give two hoots about what people think about me or my system. I am only trying to give our members an idea about what is possible. But I'll also have to live with the fact that most people still think the earth is flat

Now cleeds, you seem to be confusing two issues. Good suspended turntables are immune to external factors. Like I said I can hit my turntable with a hammer with no ill effect as long as I don't hit it hard enough to cause a dent. Do not confuse this with the low frequency information that is on the disc in the form of warps and surface irregularities which a good system will try to reproduce blindly. If you have a system like mine which is dead flat at the listening position down to 18 Hz with 2000 watts driving each of four subwoofer drivers this spurious information will loosen the fillings in your teeth before it destroys your drivers. Blocking this information is I would think obviously critical in this situation. The only way this can be done without affecting the audio range is with a steep digital filter which I am fortunate enough to be able to program in my system. I hope this explained it adequately.

Mike
Mahgister, Ron Carter is not in your room. You have no where near the power and the wrong kind of loudspeakers to image a full size acoustic bass. The best you can do is come up with a miniature version. But, do not feel bad. That is the best most systems can do. If you want to head in the right direction buy a pair of Magneplanar 3.7i's and the biggest amp you can afford over 200 watts/ch.
@mijostyn Any chance of putting up some photos in Virtual Systems? It's time.
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Mahgister, Ron Carter is not in your room. You have no where near the power and the wrong kind of loudspeakers to image a full size acoustic bass. The best you can do is come up with a miniature version.
I cannot argue against what you just said.... Probably true if i compare my modest system to yours...

But the point is for me that does not sound miniature Ron Carter but like the real thing... I dont doubt that compared to your system it is the miniature version but to me that does not sound so drastically far off of what is yours...

By the way in my small room my amplifier is very good and the Mission speakers fills all the room....

The room is more important than the number of watts and in my small room big Magnepans will not do anything better because they need space to breathe....

Room controls is more important than any amplifier and more important than the speakers.... I am sure you know already that....You know already what room controls reveal....

But Room controls can be made by any humble ears trust me .... The only impediment is the amount of time it will take in months (2 years for me to figure it out)...

I cannot afford your computerized control and i dont feel the need for it....I dont doubt that it can be very useful at all....But most people would never think or be able to afford one.... And i cannot stay silent and i must say my experience and truth also.... So some need computerized room control and it is useful for sure, but ALL people, not only the happy few, need a "kind" of room control....An ears created one or a computerized one.... I dont underestimated your computer at all , but dont underestimate the ears workings with time....

A system is completed when you listen the music no more the sound, at any price.....I will listen "miniature" life real version of Ron Carter this evening ..... :)

It is not so much me that will be astonished by your top system,( i dont doubt it is better than mine at all) it is you who will be astonished by the sound of a low cost system in a room like the lair of a mad scientist ..... :)

My price/ quality S.Q. is very good.....Impossible to beat in fact, i think really so..... :)

My system cost around 500 dollars, dac+amplifier+speakers.... A few times more for the cost of the things necessary for my homemade devices....

Anybody can afford Hi-fi, it is my experience and conclusion of my experiments.... Controls of the 3 embeddings gives H-Fi experience, a"miniature" Hi-Fi experience but a real one..... :)

My best to you and thanks for your patience with me....