Spin Clean fluid


Has anyone used the Spin Clean fluid (of course, mixed with the appropriate amount of distilled water) with an RCM with good results? I want to movie up from a Spin Clean to either a VPI 16.5 or an Okki Nokki and don't want my bottle of Spin Clean fluid to go to waste.
rockyboy
I've been using my Spin Clean nearing 8 years, and just haven't been motivated enough to invest in a "proper" RCM. I've had the pleasure of using the Audiodesk a couple of times on some prized discs. While the VPI and others are great, the procedure is not for me. The NOISE is another issue.

Since im pickey with my used record purchases ,the SC give good enough results until I can pounce on a used Audio Desk. 
I can block out a couple of stitches/ticks when the actual music and recording are good. 
Guess im conditioned from playing records in the 70's on dreadful equipment.

The first generation has been out now for awhile, and I'm seeing prices drop. Just not enough yet. 

It it will be interesting to read your results when you get the new RCM. Good luck.



On another forum, one of the gurus told a tale of how to get the most from your Spin Clean. He went 20-30 times in each direction. Changing it up it up half way as the bristles on the brush get used to going in one direction. So 10-15 right, 10-15 left, 10-15 right, and 10-15 left. You will get a lot more junk out this way. Other Spin Clean gurus chimed in on this post. One poster used an eye dropper to place the capful of solution over the entire surface of the pads claiming that the lead in grooves got much cleaner this way. With this extra cleaning, you will be lucky to get more than a dozen records clean per bath.

I have incorporated these practices in my own Spin Clean regimens. I also wash the brushes and cloths in hot water with a capful of bleach every once and a while. This helped. I also purchased a file holder from an office supply place to hold the records while they dry. If you have another set of brushes, dump the dirty water out of the basin and give it a quick rinse. Then replace the dirty old brushes with the clean ones and refill the basin with distilled or deionized water only. Now give each recently cleaned record a rinse with the traditional 3 right and 3 left procedure. The rinsing will reduce the number of snaps and pops significantly.

I own a RCM. But I still use the Spin Clean to knock the bark off’em every time.

The analog guru who got me onto this procedure has to have one of the nicest systems anywhere. 7 figures worth. Yet this gentleman gives out expert advice freely and routinely. He should be an inspiration to us all.
Spin Clean does a pretty good job, but I shudder when I see the lint and "stuff" floating around in the bath. I think the bath has to be replaced more frequently than advertised. 
One downside for me is the SC requires setup space for drying towels and drying rack. It's a time consuming ritual. And it isn't cost effective to clean a single record. With an RCM, you just put on the lp, apply the cleaning solution, brush and vac and it's done! Turn the RCM off and play the record. I don't have a lot of spare time. I would rather maximize my listening time. Not bad mouthing the Spin Clean. I just think you kind of get what you pay for. Fortunately I can now afford something a little better. 
3-5 times in each direction.  Then a vigorous back and forth scrub of every section on the record.   Let sit for about 30 sec, then another 1 or 2 times in each direction.  Then vac dry using a Nitty Gritty machine.

I get about 10-12 records cleaned per batch of mixed fluid.  I am consistently amazed at how much effluent is in the basin when I am finished.   Startling to realize that all of the dirt in the water came from your 10-12 records.

Key (to me at least) is a vac dry after cleaning.

My results are excellent, with a significant reduction in background noise. Some records sound like new.  That said, there is always room for improvement, and I am investigating the various DIY ultrasonic cleaners.   I would use the SC for pre US scrubbing, then the US to get of the remaining dirt.  It think US is the next level of cleaning as nearly all users report improvement compared to a VPI or similar machine.
Iopscri
But have you ever tried the Spin Clean fluid with your RCM?
I had a spin clean and it did a job, but it was a pain. As mentioned, drying was an issue for me. I put the semi-wet records in a dish rack but it was on a low table near a carpet and the static that built up acted like a magnet with the carpet fibers. I spent months trying to clean the fibers out as it would wrap around the stylus and I would need to meticulously with tweezers try to unwind them from my stylus after playing records. Even spin cleaning again (not near carpet) could get the fibers out until I got a VPI 16.5. I just played a record that I must not have used my VPI on and I heard a bad sounding record, looked at the stylus and saw the blob of carpet fibers from 4 years ago!

To answer your question, I would attempt to use the Spin Clean fluid with water as a presoak/wash. For my system I use the 3 step AVIS solution.   
Good suggestion.
I've settled on an Okki Nokki and know it comes with it's own cleaner. I also have Audio Intelligent #6 that I will use with the rcm. Again, I think the Spin Clean is ok; I just look forward to the convenience of the Okki Nokki. The results I achieved on my friend's ON seemed to better that of my Spin Clean. I too used to spread stuff (the SC, towels, and drying rack) out on my carpet and sit cross legged on the floor.  My legs went to sleep after two records. And again, it's simply a lot of setup and cleanup when cleaning only one or two records. I never encountered the static problem you did. You might want to make sure your furnace's humidifier is working properly.  Anyway, thanks for the input. 
"rockyboy" I do use the SC fluid with a RCM.  Note that I use the SC to scrub a record, then a Nitty Gritty to pull the solution from the LP.

I have had really good results using the SpinClean as they direct and vacuuming the fluid off with a Record DoctorV.

Noticeable improvement over either method alone.