Speed Control for Basis 2800 Signature


Howdy,

Wondering if anyone has used something other the Basis Synchrowave for speed control over a prolonged period of time (ie 5+ years) on any of the 2000 series TTs. I believe they all use the same motor. As much as I would love a Syncrhowave, it's out of my budget right now and speed on the table is way off. Any isights will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Dickson. I'll definitely reach out to Bill and see what he thinks and thanks Chayro as well, I've put in a call to AJ but haven't heard back from him yet.

As far as rewiring the motor, what's a little shock and electrocution when the end result is a perfectly locked in rpm and the music is sounding good :)
Thanks.

I've done a lot of surfing around and have come across the Phoenix Eng. Roadrunner tachometer and Eagle PSU (power supply unit). The PSU supplies ample energy to drive the motor and syncs with the tach via cable to read and adjust platter speed via voltage output once a second, thereby keeping speed precise in real time, as opposed to setting a speed on a controller and hoping assuming that it's maintained. Will arrive next week and I'll see if it lives up to the hype.
Hi All,

Thanks for your insights and suggestions.

I'll start by reiterating that if I had the money to burn I probably would have purchased a Syncrowave. Since that's not the case at the moment I went ahead and purchased the Phoenix Eagle PSU and Roadrunner Tachometer. The Eagle is a higher output power source and the one appropriate for the 2000 series Basis motors. I spoke with Basis and confirmed that the motors have no speed control chip, so they are compatible with this setup.

I purchased from HiFi Heaven. Shipping was fast and free, setup quick and pretty easy. For some reason the Eagle was not working for me out of the box. After 45 minutes on with Hifi Heaven, btw very friendly, helpful a pleasure to work with, and about a half hour on the phone with Bill from Phoenix we could not get it running. Bill arranged for a swap, shipping express mail at his own expense. Apparently the unit he received back from me worked fine once he got it on the bench at Phoenix so I don't know what was happening with my attempts.

On the Roadrunner I think there's room for refinement with the sensor and magnet but these are very minor issues of aesthetics and convenience.

Second unit arrived and worked perfectly. I know speed control isn't the only factor in quality sound, and as pointed out the smoothness of the motor is a big part, according to Basis, a much bigger part, but that being factored in:

A) It's sounds A LOT better with the speed locked in with the Eagle and Roadrunner, and locked in it is, the KAB strobe rock solid with no perceivable drift and for me as a bit of a TT and tech geek it's really a thing of beuaty :).
The brilliance of this setup is that RPM precision is clocked and adjusted to within .005 about once a second so all those speed variables that used to creep up between stylus drag, beginning of the lp vs end of lp etc are totally no longer issues.

B) Looking at Phoenix's demo video of the type of sine wave the Eagle PSU puts out, it seems very solid and consistent, and while perhaps not a Syncrowave it seems to produce a very smooth and even rotation of the motor. I'm no electronic engineer and don't have any testing equipment, but the motor, as quiet as it was, is audibly quieter and there's a bit less vibration to the touch.

Considering the price, definite sound improvement and positive experience working with Phoenix, so far I'm extremely satisfied. I've only had the setup running for a little over a week so another follow up review in the next 6 to 8 weeks seems like it would be appropriate but so far a totally solid 8.5/10.
ps. Just wanted to clarify what I perceive as "better" sound using the Phoenix setup.

My Basis 2800 is a fantastic table but with the Phoenix I'm hearing more bass that is both louder and less muddy, more of a holographic soundstage, the overall sound somehow both more refined and more laid with jazz and vocals, tighter and punchier with rock, I do my classical listening via dac and hi res downloads. These are obviously purely subjective impressions but it's what I'm noticing.