Here is an option that is not as well known (yet). These are wonderful sounding speakers.
I viewed both the Rosewood and Ebony finishes last week, and they are beautiful. The link I've provided will allow you to view several of the veneers that are available, including the Ebony.http://www.gr-research.com/AlphaLS/enclosures.htm
Check out Meadowlark Audio. I have five Petrel's in real Ebony veneer that look awesome. I want to keep two of them. I might consider selling the other three. Let me know if you are interested.
You could look at Tyler Acoustics... The Linbrook Signature Monitor (or their Taylo 7U if you prefer a floorstander) list for $3250 in their standard finishes, but offer something like 64 optional finishes (including several real Ebony finishes like Macassar) for probably another $300 or so. I think both models are on sale for $2850/pr. this month in their standard finishes... The website is tyleracoustics.com
I have no affiliation with Tyler, except that I own the Linbrooks (and Taylos). I highly recommend the speakers for their sound (and looks).
Salksound.com and tyleracoustics.com both offer high quality speakers available in custom finishes such as ebony.
Ummmm, Albert, don't you think that almost $6k for the speaker cabinets alone would tend to bust his budget wide open? The guy is looking for fully-functional speakers for $2500-$4000, your suggestion would probably run $10,000 or more ready to play...
My suggestion? Check with some of the better-known mfgrs. (Taylor, Green Mountain, Meadowlark, etc.) and see what they can do for you.
I mistakenly wrote Taylor in my previous post, meant to write Tyler (I guess I crossed Tyler with Taylo and came up with Taylor - duh.) Looks like DrSeid had the same idea. Great minds think alike, huh? [smile]
Rockets and Onix from AV123
have ebony veneers.
I've mixed up Tyler and Taylo and ended up with Taylor quite a few times myself. It usually takes me a few times to get it right when I search or try to visit his webpage. Ty, why did you do this to us?
I've spoken with Pat, at Meadowlark, a few times and he will do custom finishes for you.
Veneer prices from oakwood veneer company for the 20mil paper backed stuff per sheet (32sq/ft):
Gaboon Ebony: $495.68 + shipping
Italian Ebony: $239.68 " "
Macassar Ebony: $447.68 " "
Most speaker manufacturers will charge you for a full sheet unless they stock it. You'll be surprised about how much veneer is needed to cover all six sides of a speaker. A small pair of monitors can use over 10 sq/ft when you allow for trimming of waste.
Rlwainwright, read carefully. The G&R speakers that Albert recommended are fully assembled at this price.
has anyone tryed the Onix Rockets stuff??
Gaudio_eek is correct Riwainwright, the entire speaker with custom cabinet is $4500.00 retail as a kit, within $500.00 of his stated maximum.
Most Audiogon members are handy enough with a screwdriver to install the drivers and damping material. The GR is a world class speaker, competing against $30,000.00 speakers. I was excited to be able to suggest them.
I bought one of their UFW-10 subs for my dad to complement the speakers I built for him, and I was very impressed with the bang for the buck it represented. The UFW-10 is a 13 inch cube (quite small), but weighs 50 pounds.
AV123.com were out of Macassar Ebony (the finish I wanted, which looked great online) in B-stock, so they offered (and I accepted) a brand new 1st quality one in Rosewood (which looks *much* better in person) in its place... The finish was on par with some fabulously finished speakers from Dali I saw recently that sold for $5900 all the way up to $40000/pr. Pretty much the best I have seen to date. Build quality was superb too.
The sound of the sub was very musical, but it was obviously not going to compete with much larger high-end subs that cost 3-5+ times its price... Still, for the $400 plus shipping I paid for it, I know I could not do better for the price.
Based on my Rocket sub buying experience, I would not expect Rocket soundwise to compete with speakers like Tyler Acoustics (not implying in any way that Rockets are mediocre sounding speakers, only Tyler is really that good!), but they will definitely win on finish quality (and that is saying something).
Worth a look if your budget is relatively tight...
I have seen the GR page before, and they do look interesting. Have you had a chance to listen yet, or have you just seen the finished product? Looks like a great deal.
AV123 Rockets/Onix/Perpetual Technologies is Mark L. Schifter's company. Mark was with Genesis back in the Artie Nudell days. He was also part of the Acoustic Alchemy group. He is a descendant of the Marantz family. My understanding is that he went along with his partners wish to sell Acoustic Alchemy even though he did not want to. The subsequent heartbreak when the new owners of Acoustic Alchemy bankrupted it in a about a year is what lead him to go with the consumer direct sales model to give him complete control over everything thing. He also co-owns Sound Arts China which produces many of the high end cabinets used these days.
See these reviews-
Jphii, I hung out with Danny of GR Research at the Denver show, he and Gary Dodd of Dodd amplifier fame are fellow Texans.
I had Gary's Dodd's mono block tube amps here last week and they are extremely good. They use EL34 outputs, which are one of my favorites and likely why I adapted to them so easily.
Gary lives here in Dallas but Danny lives several hours drive from me, so I have not visited him yet.
Gary Dodd has a pair of the new Epiphany 20-21 speakers (retail $27K), and right beside them, a pair of GR Research Alpha Line Source. Personally I prefer the sound of the GR Research.
Danny's Alpha's image further outside of the box, the upper midrange and highs are smoother and sweeter and the bass has more impact.
There is a ringing sound from the Epiphany that seems to ride on top of the music. I heard this at HE in New York and again at the Denver show. Hearing it again in a home environment leads me to believe it is in the design rather than a one time thing.
Considering the price of the Alpha's, I am totally blown away by their performance. I actually considered buying them instead of my Dali Megaline's.
The Alpha's woofer/midranges are a larger driver than the Epiphany. The claim from Epiphany is that their smaller drivers are faster and therefore, integrate better with the ribbon top.
I hear no issues with the Alphas, so I will take the larger driver and along with it, the benefits. It is plenty fast, provides excellent deep bass impact and integrates perfectly in my experience.
Anyway, even if the Alpha were only 75% the Epiphany rather than the other way around, Alpha's are a fraction of the price and equal if not superior in appearance.
If this weren't enough, new Alpha's on the way which will surpass the current model. New custom built Peerless woofers (same size) with truncated frames, which will allow closer "center to center" alignment and Bolander-Graebner is completing new custom ribbon tweeters with 8 ohm impedance.
Estimates are about two months for this to all come together. I plan to give them a serious listen.
Albert, do you happen to have the approximate measurements for the Alpha S? Thanks.
Thanks for the info Albert. I think that new speakers are going to be the next "major" purchase. I'm having a hard time trying to sift through all of the possibles. I really want to build my own, and the GR's give me that option. Being the Audio Note fan that I am, the AN/E Kit 3's have been looking good, but now the GR's must be given some serious consideration. If you have heard the AN/E's, either kit or factory, I would appreciate a comparison.
Vnt001, also, the AN/E kit is something you might want to consider if you do go the DIY route. Then you can finish (or have them finished) as you desire.
70 inches high, 13.75 inches deep and 12.5 inches wide.
tyler acoustics web site takes you to the company that they get all their veneer from. i am having ty building me the woodmere's in ebony macassar with the external crossovers. this is a premium upgrade so depending on the size of the speakers will determine the price. there is a variety of ebony's with different color patterns in the wood grain so be careful and make sure you get what you want. i wanted the black and tan with the wood quartered so when it is finished in satin it will bring out all the colors compared to a piece that is unfinished.
go to the web search and put in ebony wood and it will take you to all the different websites to get an idea
thanks for all the input....Tyler seems like the way to go