Speakers which always sound good


This is brought up because I'm home shopping, but I'm not actually looking for speakers right now, so please don't take this as a request for advice so much as opinions.

As I shop for homes I've realized how few are really equipped for the audiophile.  Too many fireplaces and windows and damn kitchens and bathrooms placed completely inappropriately for us! :-)

And as you may know, I'm a big fan of appropriate room treatments.

So, wanted to step away from this world for a bit and ask, what are speaker brands that you feel always work?  Or at least, work really well without having to think about the room acoustics or placements?  Reminder that this is 99% of the buying public.  We who have laser line levelers, a closet full of measurement microphones and a chair which bolts our head into a fixed location may not believe it is true, but this is the majority of the buying public. 

What do we, the audiophile community recommend to them to actually be helpful in getting them as many positive music listening experiences as possible?

Best,

Erik
erik_squires

Showing 5 responses by asvjerry

..had to go there....tap on that Alien egg marked 'audiophile' and go "Hello?"...  *L*  This little critter goes for your ears...

What spouse and self do for self-employ allows us to 'self-tour' subdivision homes just for grins and groans.  I employ the 'Audiophiles' Eye for the Sounds Style' and generally walk away, if not run.

In the majority, one would be better off using the master bedroom.
Will NOT 'fly' with the spouse....unless you'd prefer to sleep alone on a more or less permanent state.

A custom home would be an answer....but a pricey one.  That, and if the acoustics don't work....you bought it, and have to 'make it work'....yet again...*grumble*

OK.  No suggested speakers; a suggested tactic, my 'imho' personal approach....*s*  Omnis'.

Linkwitz said "Ignore the room."  Or just cope with it....we do that alot.

Closest analog in speakers to what I'm 'about' is 4 of his Plutos'; small footprint, easily moved, sub friendly, not watt hungry.  Not particularly pretty nor ignorable, but are (or can be) the same driver(s) of equal response and qualities.  Your basic 'surround' with/without sub.....

Create a 'field' that you're within, rather than facing.
DACable...to some extent.  You can treat the room, but that seems to be The Answer in most cases, anyway..

You can 'be' sitting 'with' the band...on demand.
Add discrete delay to the 'rears', with a tweak of the eq...viola', your hall awaits, FRC.

My biggest diversion to the above is DIYing my own omnis to my tastes and perversions, trying to make them visually less 'strange'...

And the Plutos' have the same basic detail of the current Ohms that bugs me....a dome tweet....Not 'omni' at all.  Ergo, perverse. *LOL*

But...I remain an anomaly in y'alls midst...and happily, I might add.

OK...throw your rocks...."Shields Up." ;)

Wierdly yours,J
....as long as I include the Maggies' into the shared system, I'm halfway There...*L*

The only story I find amusing of late is of the cursing parrots....;)
@rixthetrick....at least a townhouse Mstrbdrm doesn't have the real estate some do, rivaling the entire apartments I've lived in...

Some of the smaller 'infill housing' that's sprung up in this area have lower floors the size of your master.  A set of modest bookshelves could overdrive the space with a modest amp.....

"Dinners' Ready!"

"WHAT?!" *Hit 'mute', and even the silence is deafening....*

...adding 10' ceilings turn the 'living space' into a slightly distorted cube....the only option is to turn it into a padded cell...

"Straightjackets optional @ additional cost...."

@rcprince , I believe you're correct in your assumption; although the siren call of the dedicated audio room is tempting, most would like the music where one 'lives' as opposed to withdrawing into...

Spouse shares that desire, but wants something a bit more 'plug 'n play'. 
A 'shared space system' that doesn't require an instruction manual to play an LP, a CD, listen to NPR or Spotify, and yet can be used for the flat screen for a DVD or a sat movie.

I've got the concept in mind for How to accomplish this....we're slowly getting the space to do so a reality....

*sigh*  Another story, long....I don't seem to have many short ones of late...
Oh...yeah, there's the Final Question, asked in the last line of Eriks' 'original statements and queries'....:

"What do we, the audiophile community recommend to them to actually be helpful in getting them as many positive music listening experiences as possible?"

Given that the majority of 'us' have suffered through coping with odd spaces in the 'public' rooms of various 'n sundry houses, unless lucky enough to have a room that could be adapted for use as a 'listening room....   

All we could offer is a list of what to avoid; sloped ceilings, spaces that offer only 2 walls, and those at a right angle to each other if only the 2, most 'open-plan' spaces in general,...a list of 'don'ts' that would glaze the eyes of most before one even began a list of 'do's'.

Many scarcely completely read the manuals of the equipment they buy, and if done it's for how to operate the stuff successfully.
Most are buying 2, 2.1, 5.1, or 7.1 systems to augment (or as part of) a flat screen purchase or to add to an existing one.
Most are so damned thrilled at the basic improvement in the audio, flawed as it may be or sound like to our ears. Any concerns that we (as audiophiles) would consider to be horribly flawed but simple to fix would likely fall onto 'deaf ears'....

There will be, as before, those who hear 'flaws' and seek to address that begin The Journey to varied degrees.

This is Why most people consider us crazy. *L*  To them, we are literally hearing 'things' they can't.  Or may never notice.

Of all the 'home renovation' or 'people seeking a home' shows I've seen, I think I can count the number of 'audio speakers' noted on one hand.  Generally, all that appears is a flat screen, sans additions.

Only one appeared to be of 'audiophile intent', but it was modest..

Only one reno made an issue of the owners' love of music.
At the end, he was gifted with a new TT; manual, basic.
They built a wall consol to contain same and his record collection.
And built the speakers 'enclosures' to fit into at the ends of said consol...complete with grills...*sigh*
(Never saw a receiver or an amp of any sort, or said speakers, btw)

Happy Hunting and Good Luck, Erik.👍
Let me know when you've 'landed'.  If necessary, I'll buy the beer and comiserate and listen to The Plan.
I will be polite, nod when appropo, comment only when absolutely necessary and attempt to be succinct about it.
I may be available to help move things about, hold the idiot end of tape measures, but only within a 1~2 low ABV% brew consumption level (basically an inexpensive 'drunk';  most of the beer will be for You. *L*).

Cheers, J

*S*  I'm happy to read this topic has brought the omni-culture out...👍

@cal91...In reality, no....reading the book, that is...
I prefer to make up my own life without the influence of epic tomes or modern versions.  Besides, we all make up our own 'daze' on the fly to some extent anyway....;)
A friend (I do have some...I do make them myself, to some degree...*L*) in Houston, quizing me as to 'why don't you 'do' Art; suddenly blurted:

"I get it!  Your Life IS Your Art!"

*PG pause*
"...well, that's as good an excuse as any I might make....Thanks! *L*"

If you've noted some simularities 'twixt me and the Joyce; refer to the statement that follows most movies....

"Any simularities to people and events in real life..."
...is Your Problem. *L* 

"Officer, I don't know Any of these people.  Life is just a huge shared hallucination anyway..."

Other than cursing parrots (which I'd like as a ringtone), best comment of the day...

'Never mistake my silence for weakness.
No one plans a murder out loud.'

That shirt I would buy.....wear to parties...or the next AXPONA.
You will know me by the clothes and the sound protection earphones I wear....;)