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The 2.5 way speaker.


You guys probably thought I was going to fanboy over a brand, and I'm not. I'm going to fanboy over a speaker design. IMHO the 2.5 way speaker is THE ideal high end speaker for the majority of enthusiasts.


First, what is a 2.5 way? It is a speaker with 3 drivers, but the mid range lacks a high pass filter, so  it shares output with the woofer.  It has a number of advantages over smaller and larger speakers:
  • Similar footprint to stand mounted 2-way speakers
  • Ideal bass output for apartments and modest homes
  • Easier to integrate than big speakers
  • No subwoofer
  • High sensitivity compared to a 2-way using similar drivers
  • Reasonably priced


A number of brands have taken this approach including:
  • Focal
  • Joseph
  • Monitor Audio
  • DIY kits like the Klang Ton Ophelia, and Zaph Audio

So for the average enthusiast who is not a San Francisco billionaire I argue here (for the sake of an argument) that the 2.5 way speaker should be considered one of the great technical innovations in terms of users and results.
erik_squires

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I am 65 and can still hear 18,000 Hz just fine.


Are you positive?  How did you determine this?

That is extremely unusual.

I'm 55 and have protected my ears.  When I get audiology tests those giving me the tests usually express surprise, saying I have the hearing of a younger person.

Until recently I could hear up to 15K, but that's dropped to 14K (with a little dip around 4K).

Age related hearing loss takes an even steeper decline usually after age 60.


So I have to admit some skepticism about your claim. 



@richopp



ANYONE who plays a musical instrument and likes either horn or box speakers has a hearing impairment.



Well, congratulations on one of the silliest claims I've seen someone make here ;-)

I play musical instruments (e.g. acoustic/electric guitar, piano, bass, drums, used to play sax), my friends play musical instruments.  I like box speakers.  I'm not hearing impaired.


What in the WORLD were you actually trying to say that makes any sense?

Of course rooms influence the sound of a speaker,  that's a given.  But what does that have to do with your first statement about box speakers?Is EVERYONE hearing impaired?  Or are you suggesting there is some specific type of speaker - not box or horn - that someone who "plays a musical instrument" should own?  If so:  don't beat around the bush: Name that type of speaker.

(And btw, your claim that "rooms" are more important to music than speakers is also misleading.  Scientific work done by people like Floyd Toole have indicated that we are good at "hearing through" the acoustics of a room to the essential tonal character of a speaker, in tne midrange up.  For the same reason we are good at identifying people's voices even when we move from room to room.  This is why, on the research conducted by Toole, others using the NRC and Harmon Kardon's blind testing facilities, it turns out that a certain profile of neutrality on axis IS important because that's what we tend to pick up almost regardless of the room.  A smoothly sloping down of off-axis sound helps improve the added room reflections, making such a design perform more predictably in a wider range of rooms).






Well, apparently richopp is going to call most people here "hearing impaired" but keep the claim about which type of speakers he actually endorses a closely guarded secret.  Maybe we have to pay for it?