Speaker cable advise for spectron/ gallo 3.1

Hello fellow A'goners,

Seeking some opinions on speaker cables. My set up currently consists of: lexicon mc-12 balanced preamp, spectron musician ii (2) running mono (vis PAD y splitter) and Anthony gallo acoustics ref 3.1 speakers. Interconnects are nordost blu heaven xlr, and older M series monster cable for speaker cable.

I'm currently borrowing a friends synergistic research ref x active cables and like what I hear. I wouldn't call it a night and day difference but defiantly enough to make me consider new cables.

I've heard nice things about acoustic zen hologram ii, analysis plus crystal 9, much of the kimber line, etc. I also "heard" the Gallo's do not like pure silver but I have no first hand knowledge of that. I'd like to audition a few cables so I'm just trying to create a short list.

*** I also have the gallo sub amp which I've tried with/without. I'd say each configuration has its pros/cons. I've only hooked it up via my preamps sub out , never to the speaker high/low, which may make a difference.
Canare cable with nuetrik connectors.If its good enough for the worlds best studios, it certainly should do the trick.

I love the combo of thoe products! Why waste money on over priced jackets? Just my opinion.
As you probably already know, nobody is going to be able to tell you what will work in your system, as there are too many variables. Unfortunately, it usually takes several trial and error sessions with various cables. On the positive side, there are plenty of nice used cables for sale here, so you can buy and sell without too much, if any, loss. I personally like Audience AU24 for starters. They are well-balanced and pretty neutral, IMO. There's a 9/10 pair of 2.5m AU24s up right now for $750. I would jump on it if the length is good with you. Plus, Audience has great customer service if you need reterminations or whatever.
There are SEVEN major issues with speaker cables that must be addressed well; Inductance, Resistance, Capacitance, Magnetic field cancellation, Electric field cancellation, Skin depth, and wire quality.

Few speaker cables address all seven correctly and throw in wire quality (actually well down the list compared to the correct DESIGN) and a few buzz kill "trust me" engineering phrases. Most cable get their "sound" from poor engineering that disrupts phase coherence (too high capacitance) or slew rate limits the current transients (too high inductance). Some even have to use extra circuits to offset a variable that was left out in the cold in a bad design (sky high capacitance to get low inductance, for instance, using a Zobel network).

A good cable design should have low capacitance (less the 50 Pf/ foot and low inductance (less than 0.15uH/foot. The resistance should be at least a 14 AWG to avoid effecting the speaker’s cross-over characteristics. Too high a resistance allows the speaker output response to follow the low frequency impedance curve, which is usually, non-linear. The skin effect at audio is about 18-mils deep, so at least 18 x 24 AWG wires are necessary to properly allow current distribution at ALL frequencies across the wires. I say 24-23 AWG as the skin depth at 20 kHz isn't too important but 10 kHz is, and that allows 23-24 AWG wire to work well. Some compromises must be made to get the cable made and eighteen wires is a lot to manage. EVERY cable is a compromise, some are just more evenly designed than others. The B and E field cancellation requires closely spaced wires (b field) and proper electric field cancellation (insulated wires cross at an angle to one another).

Few, few cables really do what they are supposed to do. Ninety percent of what you hear is a good DESIGN, and NOT expensive materials. Most tout materials as ANYONE can get high priced materials and make you pay for it. FEW can design a cable correctly as that takes a lot of talent and snake oil repellant.

I know from experience that standard grade copper, what is called tough pitch copper, can exceed high prices copper and even solid silver in a good design compared to great materials in a poor cable design. Look for a good design, first, and materials LAST. Standard OFC copper is plenty in the right design. If the cable isn't using 24 AWG or finer insulated wires, silver-plated is a waste of money. You want the silver to enhance both the low and high frequencies, and if the current density across the wire is managed right, both will benefit, not just the "treble".

A bad design will not allow low capacitance AND inductance. Why? The inductance and capacitance are tied to one another in a given design. One moves opposite the other when insulated conductor spacing is changed, for instance. If you have an unbalanced cap to inductance ratio (some cable have 1600 pf/foot capacitance and 0.1uH/foot inductance!), you're stuck with it till you CHANGE the design. Most just let capacitance get too high as these are easy designs, and most don't realize what high capacitance does to imaging stability.

Good designs? Look at NORDOST speaker cables. They get most things right. Yes, they ignore E field cancellation (parallel wires) but the speaker is a low impedance source and MOST RF is not a problem against the high current signal in a speaker cable...if it is, you're screwed as the cable does nothing to passively block RF. There are other good cables, too, but the list is much shorter than it should be.

A perfect speaker cable is a straight wire with no resistance and is infinitely small (no skin effect). It would concurrently pass current in BOTH directions at the same time (no B field energy or E field energy wasting power as they both cancel 100%). This also means it has no inductance. It would have an infinitely low dielectric constant for the insulation (sit in a vacuum) and have no capacitance. This cannot be made, so every wire is going to have a "problem" to some level at EVERY aspect of the design. Most cable can get R, L and C right if they use a simple ZIP cord design, which forgets about skin depth management. The fine management of skin depth and field cancellation with multiple wires is difficult, and makes HUGE improvements in the sound. Look for cables that address EVERY tenant that I mention. Walk away from speaker cables that ignore even ONE meteric for performance.

Shop wisely and listen to the cable. "Coloration" is NOT the sign of a good cable, it just isn't. A speaker cable should be as transparent as possible if it is an ideal transmission line for current signals. Transparent wire is an excellent choice on any speaker. Buy your speakers based on their sound, not the cable's. Can't afford a well made cable? At least audition your speakers with good cables so you don't accidently buy them BOTH. It's all too easy to forget about the cables, which make a bigger inpact than a 10K amp veres a 20K amp to the overall sound. For what they do, cables are cheap. Why buy cable a second time to avoid the "bad" sound of colored sounding cables?

Minor differences in sound, yes. A cable has a finger print based on the seven metrics of design, and how they all interact. The "box" they fit in should be small, however, so every cable will be just SLIGHTLY different if they are made well. NONE should be "bright" or "warm" if all seven variables are taken into account and weighed correctly. Ther is a way too big group of cables that have a warm heavy sounb devoid of a stable clear image across the sound field left to right. EVERY sound should be independant of all others in a good cable. The music should not sound like the fly, where everything thrown in is stuck together in a wad. Good cables don't add "bass" or "treble". Cable just takes things away, as they are passive components. You want your cables to take it "all" away in a linear fashion and to a minimum level (no cable is perfectly good). Good design isn't snake oil, it's called physics. Pay the guys who use it well, they desrve it.
DNM Stereo is a well engineered, high quality, great sounding, and reasonably priced speaker cable. I have been using them for years in high-eff horns and now in med-eff monitors, and they sound the most natural to my ears.

Good luck
DNM cables ignore skin depth current distribution parameters with too few large conductors. The current through each wire will not be as consistent as it should be across the audio band. 32-mils (0.82mm) is far too large. You want each conductor to be about 18-22 mils. Number of wires depends on how far you go (DCR loop resistance). Ideally, you need no more wires than your DCR requirement. Smaller than 18-mils is fine, not so bigger.

The proper use of skin depth has a VERY important impact on sound. Low Cap, inductance and resistance are not the only things to worry about. This cable is essentially a ZIP cord, which by nature is excellent at cap and inductance, but never addresses skin depth. The wires are too few (2) and quickly get too big once distances are factored in.

This cable can sound "good" but never be as good as cables can be, it just isn't in the design.

Changes are complex. If you add more of the proper sized wires for skin depth to lower DCR, for example, it can impact capacitance (more metal "plates" with dielectric between them make a capacitor, more wires can be high capacitance if done poorly). More of the right wire size doesn't automatically sound better once DCR needs are met on a longer run. It can actually mess things up. Going farther (more wires) is difficult. It can be done, but it has to be managed well.

Most cables on the market miss one or more key design aspects, so this cable isn't an exception.

Don't take offense to using this cable, I'm talking about what makes a truly great cable. You can't skip the steps and get there. Materials won't save you, or replace missing design elements. I just used this cable as an example of how to look at a cable and determine if it has the potential to be a top of the heap design.

It's your money, understand the cable products you intend to buy and hone it down to the best of the best in your price range. Cables are pure science, and things are not all their cracked up to be. Many are there to justify a margin.

Teflon? Not the most important aspect in a real world priced cable. PP and PE will work in a good DESIGN and are fifteeen time cheaper. Use your cable above 80C? Maybe you do need Teflon! 6N copper? Again, not important over a good DESIGN. Standard OFCcopper is more than enough unless you have money to burn. Silver? Not important over a good DESIGN. Crazy jackets and connectors? Again, not important over a good design. I use NO connectors. Nothing is better than ANY connector interface. Silver solder the leads and use your WBT's "naked".

So consider the seven key parameters of a good DESIGN, and worry about what exotic material you can afford last. Too many buy the materisl first, and get a poorly designed cable. Race car tires on my Focus...ya, that will make it go faster. Design, design, design...then materials. If you have the money, get them both.